General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Improving my knees

Old 10-15-15, 01:20 PM
  #1  
bikerbobbbb
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 512
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Improving my knees

I'm riding my bike more. I started jogging more a couple years ago. I notice my knees a little more.

In this post I'm looking for solutions... To get the weird/slight pain to go away, but...

And it's a big but.... I'm not looking for changes in my bike. Assume that my bike is fine and that my seat height/position is ok. No improvements possible there.

For biking and jogging, I can ease back. That's one approach. But I'll keep riding my bike, and I'll keep jogging.


So my question is more (if not the sole focus for this thread) on the human knee/leg side....
How can I improve my knees (as soon as possible or reasonably possible)? Assume I'm easing back on running and biking. Bike-wise, I can pedal lighter. But I won't always want to.

2) Do I need to strengthen my knees (and muscles around the knees)? I'm thinking in part it's weak muscles to support the knee. That's probably correct. I'm also thinking there may be a slight imbalance, esp. toward pulling on the kneecap. Running does on thing. Biking does another.

Symptoms on the knees...
It was one. That went away. Now it's both, but I massaged them, esp. moving the kneecap around.
Slight pain, feels like it's from the joint.
Clicking. That's what I first noticed.


Disregard going to the doctor. That's out. They'll tell me common sense approaches. I'm thinking more a strength training/stretching/easing approach, more like physical therapy, can overcome this. I'm paying health care myself, so if I go the doctor, I pay 100%. $$$ to hear the doctor say, "Don't do that." Plus, I think this can be overcome.

Tight calf muscles. I'm working on that. That's very likely related.

Stretching, massage, light use.... and more strength in the leg and knee areas I'm thinking.


What say you? I'm looking for ideas....

(Someone will mention pedalling cadence... Yes, I got that. Lighter use on the bike. But that's not the solution I'm looking for. That bike-focused. I want to overcome this and pedal however I want on the bike. Assume the bike is fitted to me, posture is good, leg/pedal length is good, etc. I'm not that interested in the bike itself here. Just fixing/improving my knees/legs.)

(Ditto on the doctor again. This sounds like a common issue. The answers/solutions are already out there. I'm just looking for what will work.)


And then it will heal up some. I'll strengthen things. And I can push things again until the next weak area starts to break.
bikerbobbbb is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 01:50 PM
  #2  
NYMXer
Senior Member
 
NYMXer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Middletown NY
Posts: 1,500

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix EVO w Hi-Mod frame, Raleigh Tamland 1 and Giant Anthem X

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If I understood you correctly, you do not want to see a Dr or make adjustments to your bike. That doesn't leave many options but I think the jogging might need to take a break until the knee heals from whatever is bothering it. The constant pounding on pavement is not good for any knee and things get real complicated the more you weigh.
I would look at the seat position for/aft of the pedals with you on the bike. The underside of your kneecap should align with the front edge of your pedal. Maybe take some supplements like fish oil, chondroitin and glucosamine. If inflamed, some ibuprofen or similar anti inflammatory medicine. Maybe consider a knee brace? Stretching before a work out and icing afterwards.
In the end, the choice is yours but I would consult a Dr or get some physical therapy and consider some of the suggestions I offered you.
Good luck and if you found something that helped you, post it and share with us. The info might help other people in a similar situation.
[h=1][/h]
NYMXer is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 01:50 PM
  #3  
demoncyclist
Senior Member
 
demoncyclist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Medway, MA
Posts: 2,728

Bikes: 2011 Lynskey Sportive, 1988 Cannondale SM400

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So you are fishing for advice, but have already stated that you won't listen to most of what we are all thinking, based on our collective centuries of experience? Maybe you should just delete your account now- you obviously know it all already...
demoncyclist is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 01:57 PM
  #4  
RonH
Life is good
 
RonH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Posts: 18,213

Bikes: 2001 Litespeed Tuscany, 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bikerbobbbb View Post
Symptoms on the knees...
It was one. That went away. Now it's both, but I massaged them, esp. moving the kneecap around.
Slight pain, feels like it's from the joint.
Clicking. That's what I first noticed.

Disregard going to the doctor. That's out.
Are you afraid of what the doctor will tell you?
I had similar problems in 2008. Went to see a sports medicine doc (orthopedic) and he told me I had a torn meniscus. Minor arthroscopic surgery fixed it. My physical therapy was to ride on the trainer for 4 weeks. Then I was back out on the road. He said my knees were good till I was 100.
__________________
The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. - Psalm 103:8

I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
RonH is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 02:01 PM
  #5  
GovernorSilver
Senior Member
 
GovernorSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Posts: 1,221

Bikes: Breezer Uptown 8, Jamis Renegade Expert

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Running is known to be hard on the knees. Try giving that up for a while.

You reject going to see a doctor. How about seeing a physical the******? He/she at least might be able to identify if you have muscle imbalance in your legs. Your quad being stronger than your hamstring is one possible cause of knee pain. Obviously if you strengthen your quads without strengthening your hamstrings, the pain would get even worse - assuming this even is the real cause of your problem, and not something like a torn patella or whatever.

Last edited by GovernorSilver; 10-15-15 at 02:11 PM.
GovernorSilver is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 02:05 PM
  #6  
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 41,602

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 183 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6750 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 164 Times in 140 Posts
Yea Pay a Sports Physical The****** for their more educated input on the question.

the answers here are worth their cost .. .. zip.
fietsbob is online now  
Old 10-15-15, 02:24 PM
  #7  
Little Darwin
The Improbable Bulk
 
Little Darwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Posts: 8,402

Bikes: Many

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
For the first half of the post I was going to say that you should try spinning instead of mashing, but apparently that is out... I spin, and have arthritis in both knees... The best thing I do for my knees is riding.

You didn't mention whether you belong to a gym. If so, ask a trainer there how to strengthen your knees. I can't imagine too much other than cycling that will strengthen the muscles you need for cycling, but some gym equipment may help you if things are out of balance... perhaps leg extensions, leg curls, or ???
__________________
Slow Ride Cyclists of NEPA

People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Little Darwin is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 03:10 PM
  #8  
Calder Benson
Senior Member
 
Calder Benson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 242

Bikes: '14 Jamis Coda Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Have you ruled out a clinical issue?

If so,

Foam roller
Glucosamine
Swimming
Bike riding

No running at all

Then find a chiro or personal trainer who is competent at strengthening the posterior chain.
Calder Benson is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 04:08 PM
  #9  
wheelsmcgee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 393
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I have similar experiences...about 6 or 7 years ago, I began running. Before that, I basically did an elliptical trainer exclusively, and once I started running, I alternated between the two. Since starting biking more about a year or so ago, I've pretty much given up the elliptical and now alternate between biking (largely indoors on a trainer) and running (largely outside, when its nice). I do something 5 or 6 times a week...about an hour or so a session. I also don't go see the doctor much when I have an issue, because I don't have time to go to a GP (who knows nothing) so I can get a referral to a specialist (who knows something, but can see me in 8 weeks...LOL).

My non-expert thoughts: Running can mess up your knees. I've been lucky and haven't had issues for a while, but would encounter knee pain periodically...one time when I was running a lot, I had this weird "scraping" feeling in one knee...it would start about a 1/4 mile into a run, and make running unbearable. After experiencing this a few times, I stopped running for two weeks entirely. I went back to running and it came back. I then stopped running for another 4 weeks. I started running again and it was fine, and has been for many years. So, some minor things will heal, but I think its important to give up the offending exercise for a while. Its probably running, but mashing on pedals can be just about as bad.

My thoughts based on my own personal experiences:
1. Doing different things allows a body to heal and reinforces muscle groups that don't get used as often with a single activity...so keep doing that and maybe try to throw in something else, like some weight training or swimming maybe, and ease back on the running (if that's the primary offender).
2. As far as running goes, a lot can be done with *how* you run (including shoes, terrain, etc). I noticed that for me personally, I seem to do better injury-wise since I've switched to a forefoot strike (plenty of info about that online if you're not familiar).
3. Elliptical machines rule. Its very similar to running, and having used it for a few years probably aided greatly when I began running. I've had lots of little issues/injuries (especially early on) when I began running, but with the elliptical, virtually none of them were affected...including things that made merely walking difficult. I basically stopped using it because my machine is getting old and worn...it should be retired to the elliptical hall of fame. If I again have an issue that prevents me from running and/or biking, I will get a new elliptical machine in a heart beat. I bought a decent one...the good ones are probably around $2k or so these days.
wheelsmcgee is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 04:15 PM
  #10  
CdaleNike21
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
As far as running goes, go to a good running shoe store and let them analyze your gait and buy shoes accordingly.
CdaleNike21 is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 04:23 PM
  #11  
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 51,401

Bikes: Lots

Mentioned: 128 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2851 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 34 Posts
Read this ...

CYCLING PERFORMANCE TIPS - Knee Pain
Machka is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 04:25 PM
  #12  
StanSeven
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,061

Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 26 Times in 24 Posts
Running or cycling doesn't hurt knees that function properly from a biomechcanical perspective. People with knees that hurt have some kind of imbalance or mechanical issues. The only way to find out is have an expert analyze whether that's a doctor, a speciality running store with the right equipment, or a bike fitter.

Trying to strengthen knees without knowing what's going on may make things worse.
StanSeven is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 05:09 PM
  #13  
bikerbobbbb
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 512
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry. That was a bit ranty before. I'm tired. A pre-rebuttal/attack on the people who would respond that way. It's the internet, and there one forum I've posted on that is set in their responses.

I'll catch up later, but glancing through it... Someone posted exactly what I said wasn't the focus -- bike position, leg position, etc.

This idea is something along the lines of....
Massage
Stretching
Strengthening
or something in that direction.

I'm just not exactly sure what yet.
Something to strengthen those same muscles used in bike riding and jogging?
Or something to balance out the bike riding and jogging muscles?

I have a feeling biking riding is using certain muscles, while jogging uses different ones. Something with those pushes of strengthen from those activities is fighting against each other (maybe actually pulling on the kneecap a little).

I'll figure it out eventually I suppose.
bikerbobbbb is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 07:35 PM
  #14  
hags
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I had a torn meniscus due to a work injury. I went to see a well known orthopedic surgeon at a high end sports/orthopedic center and he recommended surgery (of course).

The surgery was a nightmare, the pain was worse, I couldn't do any physical therapy due to the pain, swelling and restricted range of motion.

I had so much swelling that it had to be drained 3 times. I had numerous cortisone shots to no effect.

Another MRI and another surgery, 18 months of physical therapy, cortisone shots and I was still in pain with limited range of motion.

The only thing that helped me rehabilitate my knee after three years of getting nowhere was getting back on a bike, strengthening my quads and losing weight.

The kicker is that I've since found out that a torn meniscus doesn't require surgery in the majority of cases.

If I was you I'd get an MRI and lay off the impact exercises such as running.
hags is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 08:23 PM
  #15  
StanSeven
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,061

Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 576 Post(s)
Liked 26 Times in 24 Posts
Knees are tricky. The kneecap is like a plate suspended by multiple bands. If one set of muscles is stronger than the others, the bands get pulled on that side and the knee feels the strain. If your issue is an imbalance, stretching and strengthening the weaker muscles is important. The secret is finding the right ones.

If you don't want to get professional help, you can find a lot online. You can test yourself using fitness equipment to help. For example, there are ratios of weights you can light with hamstring curls as opposed to seated leg lifts. For example you should be able to do a certain percentage greater weight on one exercise versus another. That helps in isolating the weaknesses.
StanSeven is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 08:33 PM
  #16  
GovernorSilver
Senior Member
 
GovernorSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Posts: 1,221

Bikes: Breezer Uptown 8, Jamis Renegade Expert

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
Running or cycling doesn't hurt knees that function properly from a biomechcanical perspective. People with knees that hurt have some kind of imbalance or mechanical issues. The only way to find out is have an expert analyze whether that's a doctor, a speciality running store with the right equipment, or a bike fitter.

Trying to strengthen knees without knowing what's going on may make things worse.
I agree. If I had to spend money, I'd rather spend it on professional help regarding figuring out what the hell is wrong with my knees, than on nice cycling gear or other material goods. Material things can be gotten later/replaced. You only get one set of knees.
GovernorSilver is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 09:07 PM
  #17  
Rich Gibson 
Senior Member
 
Rich Gibson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 522

Bikes: Fuji Rubaix 1.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm 73 and have run most of my life then had a torn meniscus in both knees and surgery for them. Stop running indefinitely (guess you don't want to hear that) If your knee joint is worn past a certain point neither massage or strengthening will help. Pedaling faster will lessen the load on your knees. Of course they may not be worn out, but possibly over used. I switched to cycling two years ago and have had no problems with my knees once I found a fitter and he worked out some alignment issues. I just reached 11,000 miles on my bike.

What is the reason for insisting that nothing on the bike needs correction? There is a reason sincere folks are all telling you the same thing. If you want to filter out things which don't seem to fit your expectations there's little than can be done for you. A good (read NOT the LBS standard) fitter might just find a solution. I'd recommend one as a first step and not looking for hardware or clothing to solve your knee problems. Use that money on an expert who will look at everything about your riding...but you need to go in with an open mind which excludes nothing.

Good luck! Rich
__________________
..life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. ― Andy Rooney ...enjoy what's left!
Rich Gibson is offline  
Old 10-15-15, 10:11 PM
  #18  
hoodat
Senior Member
 
hoodat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Otay Mesa in South San Diego
Posts: 135

Bikes: Worksman Port o trike, Cozy cargo trike; both electric.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I never heard of a bike fitter. How would you find one?
hoodat is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 05:09 AM
  #19  
RonH
Life is good
 
RonH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Posts: 18,213

Bikes: 2001 Litespeed Tuscany, 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by hoodat View Post
I never heard of a bike fitter. How would you find one?
At most GOOD bike shops. If your shop doesn't offer professional fitting ask the owner what shops do offer it.
__________________
The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. - Psalm 103:8

I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
RonH is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 05:49 AM
  #20  
Homebrew01
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 21,037

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 792 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by demoncyclist View Post
So you are fishing for advice, but have already stated that you won't listen to most of what we are all thinking, based on our collective centuries of experience? Maybe you should just delete your account now- you obviously know it all already...
Yup. Ruling out solutions limits the options.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.

FYI: http://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 05:54 AM
  #21  
Homebrew01
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 21,037

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 792 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by bikerbobbbb View Post

I'll catch up later, but glancing through it... Someone posted exactly what I said wasn't the focus -- bike position, leg position, etc.
Why ? They could be contributing factors.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.

FYI: http://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 07:09 AM
  #22  
habilis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Morris County, NJ
Posts: 1,106

Bikes: 90's Bianchi Premio, Raleigh-framed fixed gear, Trek 3500, Centurion hybrid, Dunelt 3-spd, Trek 800

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2166 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
@bikerbobbbb, do you run on the shoulder of the road or any other non-level surface? That makes one foot consistently lower than the other and jolts the knee of the lower leg sideways. The knee is bent outward, not its natural bending direction. This caused me knee pain until I figured out what I was doing wrong. The problem disappeared when I began running on level ground.

Last edited by habilis; 10-16-15 at 12:59 PM.
habilis is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 01:02 PM
  #23  
habilis
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Morris County, NJ
Posts: 1,106

Bikes: 90's Bianchi Premio, Raleigh-framed fixed gear, Trek 3500, Centurion hybrid, Dunelt 3-spd, Trek 800

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2166 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by hags View Post
I had a torn meniscus due to a work injury. I went to see a well known orthopedic surgeon at a high end sports/orthopedic center and he recommended surgery (of course).

The surgery was a nightmare, the pain was worse, I couldn't do any physical therapy due to the pain, swelling and restricted range of motion.

I had so much swelling that it had to be drained 3 times. I had numerous cortisone shots to no effect.

Another MRI and another surgery, 18 months of physical therapy, cortisone shots and I was still in pain with limited range of motion.

The only thing that helped me rehabilitate my knee after three years of getting nowhere was getting back on a bike, strengthening my quads and losing weight.

The kicker is that I've since found out that a torn meniscus doesn't require surgery in the majority of cases.

If I was you I'd get an MRI and lay off the impact exercises such as running.
Who are we to question people who went through years of medical school (and now must pay off their tuition loans)?

I have known several people who were assured by doctors that they absolutely needed surgery for:

- knee pain
- torn rotator cuff (shoulder injury)
- back pain
- you name it.

I and two other people I know were assured that we would never recover from a torn rotator cuff without surgery. (In my case, the doctor based his recommendation on an MRI of my shoulder.) All of us declined surgery, rested the shoulder, and recovered completely in 6 months or less with no medical treatment.

My sister suffered a back injury when she was 20 and had surgery. Her back has been a problem ever since (she is now in her 70's). I suffered a similar injury, and she told me my back would never be the same. An ethical orthopedic surgeon put me on an exercise regimen that not only healed my back, it made it stronger than ever. (I am 67 and I just finished hauling 80-lb. bags of cement and pouring footings for a deck.)

Last edited by habilis; 10-16-15 at 01:06 PM.
habilis is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 01:28 PM
  #24  
stevebiker
Senior Member
 
stevebiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Tammany Trace
Posts: 185
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm a hiker, and glucosamine has helped my knees a lot. It works.

Also, I second the comment about jogging. You jar your skeletal system when you bounce up and down. Cycling provides much of the same cardiovascular workout, without the compression stress of running. But if you're determined to keep jogging, at least take glucosamine.
stevebiker is offline  
Old 10-16-15, 01:58 PM
  #25  
El Gato27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 219

Bikes: '88 Peugot 12 spd road bike, Nishiki hybrid, JC Penney 10 spd

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wish I could tell you which way to pull on the giant rubber band, but since neither one of us knows what’s wrong I might be doing more harm than good.
I would recommend seeing a sports medicine Dr. and tell him you will not consider surgery as an option, but would like to know what is wrong and to address the problem with rehab as best as possible. He will likely send you to a physical the****** that will show you how to do exercises to correctly address your problem. You do the rehab at your house.

A little background:

I am 55 and have had two knee surgeries, one on each knee. Right for torn meniscus, about a month of rehab and I was good to go, that was about 12 years ago, no problems since. Left was initially diagnosed as the same but was actually the cartilage worn to the bone, ~6 months rehab, knee is probably ~80-85%; good enough, that was about 6 years ago.

Currently have issues with my rotator cuff, tibial band (thigh), back and planter fasciitis (feet). I do about 30 minutes of rotating rehab daily to keep all that in check. I may sound pretty beat up but I am actually in really good shape, just need keep up with my ongoing “rehab”.

My problem was (is) that I was very active, played lots of basketball when I was younger (till my early 40s), lots of running, karate, a few other assorted sports and can’t forget cycling. Just wear and tear, I can live with that.

I run a bit, do lots of walking, hiking, camping and all the cycling I can manage. I am mow my own yard, trim my own trees, work on my cars, etc….

Don’t think I would have figured it all out on my own.
El Gato27 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.