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Old 03-22-18, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Crewchief911 View Post
That may be, but should there be such a disparity in sizes? I would think by now they'd have a better idea of US sizes. I would also tend to believe that our demographics fit a large part of their customer base, but maybe not...
Shortest answer. Yes. Ask anyone of the lady persuasion about size variations in clothes sometime. Men tend to never see it or experience it (unless they're at the extremes of height or weight).

They're "saving money" and have one pattern set and going to town producing it. Catch being, the pattern set they're using is not USA centric.

You're talking about fitted clothing and populations of extreme differences in body type. Here in the USA you have an obesity epidemic and people ranging on average from medium-tall to skyscraper....whereas you go to places where most clothes are actually made (China, SE Asia, and so on), and people tend to not only not be as tall but there's not so much of an obesity epidemic. Not only is there the height/girth difference, but also leg/torso proportionality variances.


Combine with tight-fitting technical garb, and those differences come to the fore.
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Old 03-22-18, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Shortest answer. Yes. Ask anyone of the lady persuasion about size variations in clothes sometime. Men tend to never see it or experience it (unless they're at the extremes of height or weight).

They're "saving money" and have one pattern set and going to town producing it. Catch being, the pattern set they're using is not USA centric.

You're talking about fitted clothing and populations of extreme differences in body type. Here in the USA you have an obesity epidemic and people ranging on average from medium-tall to skyscraper....whereas you go to places where most clothes are actually made (China, SE Asia, and so on), and people tend to not only not be as tall but there's not so much of an obesity epidemic. Not only is there the height/girth difference, but also leg/torso proportionality variances.


Combine with tight-fitting technical garb, and those differences come to the fore.
Oksy, well, I got my answer! Makes sense. Thanks!
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Old 03-23-18, 10:55 AM
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I've bought a LOT of kit from AliExpress, so let me share my experiences:

- Summer gear: Check the size chart, which usually matches Euro race sizing (if it doesn't, order the appropriate size). Use chest size, not height or weight (works for my body type - YMMV). I have a lot of Nalini clothing, take a size 3 jersey and size 4 bibs, and find a Chinese size M jersey and size L bibs works well. The bibs inevitably aren't as comfortable as Nalini, but size XL leaves too much excess room for my junk (or maybe my junk is too small - ha, ha), but size M is too tight in the waist and legs (whereas Nalini size 3 or 5 bibs are fine if I can't get a 4). One size 'wrong' on a China-made jersey is similar to being one size 'wrong' on a Euro-made jersey.
- Gloves: go up one size. I take a size 3 Nalini glove, but order size L Chinese gloves, and even those are pretty tight (never tried an XL - afraid I'd get something too loose, which I HATE in a glove).
- Socks: My foot size is (USA) 10.5. China-made socks are frequently offered as 'one size fits all'. These aren't useless, but they are noticeably small. So, if sizes are available, I order the biggest Chinese sock I can.

- Fall/Winter gear:
--- First, fleeced vests: like summer jerseys, check the size chart which will likely match Euro race fit. I have China-made size M vests that fit perfectly. One manufacturer (I checked the size chart and ordered accordingly) sent me size S, which was perfect.
--- Fleeced Bib Tights: go up, WAY up, in size. I order 2XL or 3XL. For whatever reason, these are sized ridiculously small - in the waist, around the legs, and in length. In any event, NOWHERE NEAR as comfortable as Euro-made tights. It's been a long time since I ordered China-made tights - I spend the extra money for the 'real thing' due to comfort issues.
--- Fleeced jacket: never ordered one, so no comment
--- Non-fleeced jacket: I've ordered only one of these (according to the size chart), so not a large sample size, but while it fit well in the body, the arms were RIDICULOUSLY loose.
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Old 03-23-18, 04:20 PM
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For me, I would rather spent $34 for an outfit on Wish than paying $150 for the exact same ones with %50 off at REI.



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I prefer to try my clothes on before purchase generally so I stick to my local shop. Billionaire Jeff Bezos doesn't need my money and I don't really have an interest in giving it to places like Alibaba or any of his 40 thieves.
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Old 03-23-18, 04:26 PM
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I buy all my cycling outfit using Wish app (iOS) or wish.com. I wear size L (U.S.) and XL on Wish. I have found that the sizing charts is accurate and buy off of that.

I budget each outfit at $40 or under including shipping. And, because it takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks for delivery, I need to plan ahead of the season. Most of the time Chinese merchants would ship within 48 hours, however, shipments frequently sit idle on the U.S. custom warehouses for weeks.

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Old 03-23-18, 07:16 PM
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For me, I would rather spent $34 for an outfit on Wish than paying $150 for the exact same ones with %50 off at REI.
I don't know what Wish is but what I said still rings true. You might get lucky and find stuff that fits and good for you but I like to try clothes on and support local business. I am a cheap Jew but I also value my local shops and the fine people that work there and being someone who works at a shop as well I appreciate the business as I work hard to be the best damn employee I can be. I don't play the B.S. game, I appreciate honest sales and keeping my customers happy as much of the time as possible and working with them as long as it takes to get a killer set up! Maybe I am old school or stubborn or part luddite but I don't need the internet that much for buying too much stuff. Certainly if I find a really good deal in something I know fits well and is of good quality, I may bite but generally not so much.
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Old 03-25-18, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
You might get lucky and find stuff that fits and good for you but I like to try clothes on and support local business. I am a cheap Jew but I also value my local shops and the fine people that work there and being someone who works at a shop as well I appreciate the business as I work hard to be the best damn employee I can be. I don't play the B.S. game, I appreciate honest sales and keeping my customers happy as much of the time as possible and working with them as long as it takes to get a killer set up!
I usually spent north of $500 a year and spent almost $1500 just on gear this winter/spring at my LBS but I just could not shell out to replace my worn out kit. I did order jersey/bibs from my LBS that are shop branded which will come in in a couple weeks now but also bought 2 sets of kit from ALI. I just wont wear them on group rides

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Old 03-25-18, 08:03 AM
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I'd do business with my lbs for most if not all of my bicycling related online orders if they were competitive with other online retailers I'd normally shop.
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Old 03-27-18, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Crewchief911 View Post
Anyone ever order jerseys and shorts from Chinese companies? How much size difference between their suzes and US sizes?
I bought pants & jacket (Arsuxeo brand I think) thru Amazon Canada. took a really long time to arrive & tracking was horrible but it arrived. everything technically fit but it fit weird. I used the company's advice on sizing. normally I'm an XL but they had me buy 3XL

Full Zip Fleeced Jacket Set Warm Up Windproof Windbreaker Breatheable Cycling Coat Set MTB Road Racing Outfit Green 3XL Sold by: Mangata

hope that helps

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