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Kryptonite bike lock
wiuld like to pick up a good bike lock for my new cube ebike. At the end of the day I’ve decided to go with kryptonite. Looking at the New York or forgetaboutit. Can any tell me if the forgetaboutit is big enough to go through rear wheel seat post and then around sign post like a stop sign. I know the New York would work but if I can get away with a smaller lock will be harder to get any mechanism in it to break it cheers al |
I would recommend the ABUS Bordo Granit X-Plus it folds up really nice and comes with a carrying case that can easily mount to the bike and it is very high security. I have sold quite a few with e-bikes and with nicer regular bikes or people locking up for a while. Having too small of a shackle makes it hard to lock to certain things and with e-bikes generally being a bit thicker and bigger it can be hard to use the smaller shackles. The New York STD would be a better shackle length choice but I would again go to the ABUS Granit X-Plus locks for best security. Their nicer stuff is made in Germany from virgin steel that has been specially treated to be very strong and fairly light as well. Also they use double locking mechanism so you have to cut through both sides of the lock unlike other lock brands that just lock to one side.
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For Further reach, they have a longer bar one, now, 6500 Big.. 4#
but I don't like their carry bracket as well , so I put it in my pannier , |
The NY mini Forgetaboutit will not go between the rear wheel seat tube and a sign post, at least not with my bike. Maybe if your rear wheel sits really close to the seat tube you might get it to work. Currently I lock my back wheel to my frame using that lock and I do the same with the front wheel and frame with a second one. I then use a Kryptonite Evolution to lock to the bike rack as it has more length. I think Veganbikes made a good suggestion using the Abus Bordo lock as it has great protection and is more versatile.
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Originally Posted by yycwrangler
(Post 20320502)
wiuld like to pick up a good bike lock for my new cube ebike. At the end of the day I’ve decided to go with kryptonite. Looking at the New York or forgetaboutit. Can any tell me if the forgetaboutit is big enough to go through rear wheel seat post and then around sign post like a stop sign. I know the New York would work but if I can get away with a smaller lock will be harder to get any mechanism in it to break it cheers al |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 20320999)
I would recommend the ABUS Bordo Granit X-Plus it folds up really nice and comes with a carrying case that can easily mount to the bike and it is very high security.
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Ha, that's the "lock picking lawyer". He has unusual methods for defeating locks, some quite slow, others very fast.
I saw this one that breaks a very strong padlock with a portable nail gun powered by a 22 shell. The youtube video. I suppose this only works if the padlock is braced on a solid surface. |
Originally Posted by asmac
(Post 20323427)
I have one and use it for short term, reasonably low-risk lock-ups. Unfortunately they are not terribly thief-resistant. There is a video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0 -- of these locks being easily broken at the joints with a nut-splitter and a wrench.
By his name, my guess the OP is in Calgary where Bordo locks are not common so I think it is still a good lock. Also looked at the Cube E-Bikes and I am even more convinced that the mini New York lock will not fit around everything he/she needs to protect their bike. |
Best to review YouTube “University” bicycle locks that can be defeated quickly before purchasing. Hold on to your bike like your wallet, this may help secure it. :thumb: |
Might be better to not live in a place with rampant bike theft by people that bring heavy duty tools..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20323522)
Might be better to not live in a place with rampant bike theft by people that bring heavy duty tools..
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Not such an industrious group of thugs in the oldest fishing port on the US pacific coast..
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Kryptonite Bike Lock
Watching the nut splitter video on the Abus Brodo lock, I noticed the coating surrounding the pin on the lock links were pre-removed. Without removing the coating, it would not have been possible to place the nut splitter against the pin to spli it. The removal of the coating was not highlighted in the video and we do not know what was used and how long it took to remove. I presume it is probably a tedious process - one which most bike thieves would not want to undertake. Hence, I still prefer the Brodo lock over others. |
Originally Posted by yycwrangler
(Post 20320502)
Can any tell me if the forgetaboutit is big enough to go through rear wheel seat post and then around sign post like a stop sign.
U-lock Comparison - The Best Bike Lock |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20323664)
Not such an industrious group of thugs in the oldest fishing port on the US pacific coast..
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Astoria is a Lot cheaper to live in, too..
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Originally Posted by asmac
(Post 20323427)
I have one and use it for short term, reasonably low-risk lock-ups. Unfortunately they are not terribly thief-resistant. There is a video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0 -- of these locks being easily broken at the joints with a nut-splitter and a wrench.
Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet. What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike. |
Originally Posted by ColonelSanders
(Post 20324542)
Did you even watch the video? :rolleyes:
Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet. What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike. |
Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
(Post 20324545)
True. They would probably just use a battery powered angle grinder
Whilst an angle grinder can defeat any U-lock, even the strongest Bordo folding lock will be defeated by an angle grinder in about a quarter of the time it takes to get through a good U-lock. |
In case I wasn't clear before or it hasn't sunk in to every bike owner by now, a "bike thief" carries an entire arsenal of tools in his backpack to defeat ANY lock. And he can do so in less time than it takes you to unlock your own bike with the combination or the key.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro. |
Originally Posted by KraneXL
(Post 20324707)
In case I wasn't clear before or it hasn't sunk in to every bike owner by now, a "bike thief" carries an entire arsenal of tools in his backpack to defeat ANY lock. And he can do so in less time than it takes you to unlock your own bike with the combination or the key.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro. This is what an insurance policy is for. If you can't even consider the possibility of property being stolen, you shouldn't own it in the first place. |
Thanks everyone. At the end of the day I ordered a kryptonite New York. Still has a 9/10 rating. I don’t live right in Calgary but about 30 km west. The town of Cochrane I don’t think has a huge amount of crime. So I think the New York will allow me to secure to a sturdy pole. I’ll also run a cable through the front tire to the ulock. Again I realize that cables are easy to cut. So that combined with a insurance policy is as good as it gets. Cheets Al |
Originally Posted by yycwrangler
(Post 20325930)
Thanks everyone. At the end of the day I ordered a kryptonite New York. Still has a 9/10 rating. I don’t live right in Calgary but about 30 km west. The town of Cochrane I don’t think has a huge amount of crime. So I think the New York will allow me to secure to a sturdy pole. I’ll also run a cable through the front tire to the ulock. Again I realize that cables are easy to cut. So that combined with a insurance policy is as good as it gets. Cheets Al Since you purchased a Kryptonite....READ the TOS for the warranty. Beware that I've known no one in real life, or even online (yet), who claims to have had a successful claim through Kryptonite. It is a byzantine maze of legal falderal written specifically to make it next to impossible for them to have to pay a claim....their warranty sounds great in ad-copy, but IRL is basically worthless. Their locks, too, are cracked open by pro thieves all the time. 9/10 rating is irrelevant IRL to thieves. |
I can return the lock. Does everyone agree that the kryptonite New York is not good. So what would you then recommend for $130 can or around $100 US |
Originally Posted by yycwrangler
(Post 20326089)
I can return the lock. Does everyone agree that the kryptonite New York is not good. So what would you then recommend for $130 can or around $100 US Any lock you can buy can be compromised in about 30 to 1 minute seconds with a battery powered angle grinder. And even in broad daylight, passers-by will not stop a bike-theft-in-progress. |
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