Kryptonite bike lock
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Kryptonite bike lock
wiuld like to pick up a good bike lock for my new cube ebike. At the end of the day I’ve decided to go with kryptonite. Looking at the New York or forgetaboutit. Can any tell me if the forgetaboutit is big enough to go through rear wheel seat post and then around sign post like a stop sign. I know the New York would work but if I can get away with a smaller lock will be harder to get any mechanism in it to break it
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I would recommend the ABUS Bordo Granit X-Plus it folds up really nice and comes with a carrying case that can easily mount to the bike and it is very high security. I have sold quite a few with e-bikes and with nicer regular bikes or people locking up for a while. Having too small of a shackle makes it hard to lock to certain things and with e-bikes generally being a bit thicker and bigger it can be hard to use the smaller shackles. The New York STD would be a better shackle length choice but I would again go to the ABUS Granit X-Plus locks for best security. Their nicer stuff is made in Germany from virgin steel that has been specially treated to be very strong and fairly light as well. Also they use double locking mechanism so you have to cut through both sides of the lock unlike other lock brands that just lock to one side.
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The NY mini Forgetaboutit will not go between the rear wheel seat tube and a sign post, at least not with my bike. Maybe if your rear wheel sits really close to the seat tube you might get it to work. Currently I lock my back wheel to my frame using that lock and I do the same with the front wheel and frame with a second one. I then use a Kryptonite Evolution to lock to the bike rack as it has more length. I think Veganbikes made a good suggestion using the Abus Bordo lock as it has great protection and is more versatile.
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wiuld like to pick up a good bike lock for my new cube ebike. At the end of the day I’ve decided to go with kryptonite. Looking at the New York or forgetaboutit. Can any tell me if the forgetaboutit is big enough to go through rear wheel seat post and then around sign post like a stop sign. I know the New York would work but if I can get away with a smaller lock will be harder to get any mechanism in it to break it
cheers
al
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al
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Ha, that's the "lock picking lawyer". He has unusual methods for defeating locks, some quite slow, others very fast.
I saw this one that breaks a very strong padlock with a portable nail gun powered by a 22 shell. The youtube video.
I suppose this only works if the padlock is braced on a solid surface.
I saw this one that breaks a very strong padlock with a portable nail gun powered by a 22 shell. The youtube video.
I suppose this only works if the padlock is braced on a solid surface.
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I have one and use it for short term, reasonably low-risk lock-ups. Unfortunately they are not terribly thief-resistant. There is a video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0 -- of these locks being easily broken at the joints with a nut-splitter and a wrench.
By his name, my guess the OP is in Calgary where Bordo locks are not common so I think it is still a good lock. Also looked at the Cube E-Bikes and I am even more convinced that the mini New York lock will not fit around everything he/she needs to protect their bike.
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Best to review YouTube “University” bicycle locks that can be defeated quickly before purchasing.
Hold on to your bike like your wallet, this may help secure it.
Hold on to your bike like your wallet, this may help secure it.
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Watching the nut splitter video on the Abus Brodo lock, I noticed the coating surrounding the pin on the lock links were pre-removed. Without removing the coating, it would not have been possible to place the nut splitter against the pin to spli it. The removal of the coating was not highlighted in the video and we do not know what was used and how long it took to remove. I presume it is probably a tedious process - one which most bike thieves would not want to undertake. Hence, I still prefer the Brodo lock over others.
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I've known homeless people in San Francisco whose prize possession was a bicycle multitool. (Not to imply most homeless are thieves, but for some, Brooks saddles were their main income. They could take one off in a few seconds. If the saddle was locked down to the frame with a piece of old bicycle chain, it would take them a couple more seconds to break that chain.)
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I have one and use it for short term, reasonably low-risk lock-ups. Unfortunately they are not terribly thief-resistant. There is a video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8uyPsDaw0 -- of these locks being easily broken at the joints with a nut-splitter and a wrench.

Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet.
What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike.
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Did you even watch the video? 
Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet.
What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike.

Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet.
What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike.
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Yes, against an angle grinder is where the folding locks are truly at their weakest.
Whilst an angle grinder can defeat any U-lock, even the strongest Bordo folding lock will be defeated by an angle grinder in about a quarter of the time it takes to get through a good U-lock.
Whilst an angle grinder can defeat any U-lock, even the strongest Bordo folding lock will be defeated by an angle grinder in about a quarter of the time it takes to get through a good U-lock.
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In case I wasn't clear before or it hasn't sunk in to every bike owner by now, a "bike thief" carries an entire arsenal of tools in his backpack to defeat ANY lock. And he can do so in less time than it takes you to unlock your own bike with the combination or the key.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro.
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In case I wasn't clear before or it hasn't sunk in to every bike owner by now, a "bike thief" carries an entire arsenal of tools in his backpack to defeat ANY lock. And he can do so in less time than it takes you to unlock your own bike with the combination or the key.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro.
Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro.
This is what an insurance policy is for. If you can't even consider the possibility of property being stolen, you shouldn't own it in the first place.
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Thanks everyone. At the end of the day I ordered a kryptonite New York. Still has a 9/10 rating. I don’t live right in Calgary but about 30 km west. The town of Cochrane I don’t think has a huge amount of crime. So I think the New York will allow me to secure to a sturdy pole. I’ll also run a cable through the front tire to the ulock. Again I realize that cables are easy to cut. So that combined with a insurance policy is as good as it gets.
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Thanks everyone. At the end of the day I ordered a kryptonite New York. Still has a 9/10 rating. I don’t live right in Calgary but about 30 km west. The town of Cochrane I don’t think has a huge amount of crime. So I think the New York will allow me to secure to a sturdy pole. I’ll also run a cable through the front tire to the ulock. Again I realize that cables are easy to cut. So that combined with a insurance policy is as good as it gets.
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Since you purchased a Kryptonite....READ the TOS for the warranty. Beware that I've known no one in real life, or even online (yet), who claims to have had a successful claim through Kryptonite. It is a byzantine maze of legal falderal written specifically to make it next to impossible for them to have to pay a claim....their warranty sounds great in ad-copy, but IRL is basically worthless.
Their locks, too, are cracked open by pro thieves all the time. 9/10 rating is irrelevant IRL to thieves.
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Any lock you can buy can be compromised in about 30 to 1 minute seconds with a battery powered angle grinder. And even in broad daylight, passers-by will not stop a bike-theft-in-progress.






