tagaproject6

justtrying

livedarklions

Mmmmmm, guilt free baked goods are the best.

It's usually illegal, but some employers would take the register shortage out of the cashier's pay so definitely I try to catch this when it happens. Not that cheating the owner is any better, but I would feel worse knowing I basically stole from someone making $8 an hour.

livedarklions

Runner in OP's iron man team might have cheated, still came in 3rd to last, and it's bugging OP 5 years later.

Five years from now, I'll still regret reading the OP.

TiHabanero

The runner cheated. Period. Besides that, this isn't pro level stuff, nobody earned money from it, no lives altered from it. Just a bunch of schmucks trying to out pace the person closest to them on the course. Meaningless nonsense on the road of life. Move on from it, bro.

REDMASTA

Climb that wall of text and get over it

indyfabz

I'm having a South Park Special Olympics episode moment right now.

Troul 

x2, but thankfully i didnt retain it but could pick up the pieces by your bluf.

pvillemasher

How come I'm thinking of this kid right now?

CliffordK

Sorry.... No... not enough ambition to make them.

My guess is the woman was just stubborn. She just assumed that putting the chip on her arm was good enough. Did she do a headfirst baseball slide into home plate with her outstretched hand?

Tie the badge onto a ball and throw it across the line?

I've been around people like that. Tell them that the rules say "X", and they do the exact opposite, just because they think it is OK, and they're smarter than the race officials.

Anyway, time to move on.

mjw16

I've concluded that the most likely scenario is that she didn't initially intend to cheat, just had more of a "know it all" moment which she later regretted and moved the timing chip. However, when she found out that her mistake caused her time to fail to register properly she aggressively and dishonestly pursued the issue instead of accepting what was a predictable outcome with dignity-this dishonesty, in my opinion, then rises to the level of cheating.

Troul 

Was there doping involved?

mjw16

Yes, there certainly seems to be a dope involved.

redlude97

assuming the timing chip was on her ankle at the end it should have registered your group's overall time which is the cumulative time from the start of the swim to the finish of the run...that wouldn't change anything then

02Giant 

Don't know and at this point, don't care. It's passed the statute of limitations.

pvillemasher

There's a statute of limitations on doping, but none on chip dysplasia

CliffordK

I'm not sure how those relays work, but if she missed the clock-in, but not the clock-out, then it would be easy enough to simply use the time from when the previous leg ended. Probably adding a few seconds to the time, but that is the cost of the error.

If these chips are active clocks that must be started and stopped, and count time themselves, that could be an issue.

If it is a major sporting event, they likely have timed video footage of the start and end of the segments to attribute fairly precise times to the contestants. Just a hassle to track down the footage, especially if the times weren't particularly competitive.

You know, thinking about this, it is also possible she wasn't allowed to start until the bracelet was put on the ankle, and it was a simple timing error.

Machka 

My understanding is that you can wear your timing chip wherever you want.

But this was 5 Years Ago ... so maybe timing chips weren't as refined then.

See, all I'm getting from your story is this ... she put the timing chip on her wrist rather than ankle because she thought it would be more comfortable there or whatever ... then she moved it to her ankle because she discovered it was annoying on her wrist. If she did indeed put it in on her wrist in the first place.

So what???

I don't see cheating anywhere in that.

FBOATSB

I know/care nothing of these timing chip things, but when I read the OP, the first thing that popped into my head was the shoe lace drama of Tonya Harding.

downhillmaster

nomadmax 

No need to fret. There is no difference between 3rd from last and last.

livedarklions

You had to say it. Now there's a SWAT team of math teachers swarming around your house.

washed up

I think the OP is holding on to this just in case the runner is nominated for the Supreme Court and wants to create a record through this post to point to in 30 years.

BlazingPedals

Never having done a tri, I don't know how they're run. Is it possible that she didn't get a time for the run because her chip wasn't sensed at the beginning of her run (because it wasn't placed correctly?)

scott967

I only do one running event a year these days. 4 years ago they used chips that you looped through your laces, but the last couple years it's now on the bib and you don't do anything special. There's mats at the start, about a mile from the finish and then the finish. I assume they take your time across the last mile and it has to pass the sniff test against your whole time. I guess if you get a "no time" there might be CCTV at the finish and you would get the official time (maybe not corrected for your actual start time).

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