Multi sport training
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Multi sport training
anybody out there incorporate different disciplines in their training....right now I ride my tt bike 30 miles on one workout, the next one I ride 30 miles on my recumbent highracer then the next workout is a 8-10 mile run....riding is soo much easier on the heart and ,riding is sooo much harder on the leg muscles....I try to incorporate it all for a full spectrum workout....
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Yes. Me, wife, daughter and son and a bunch of others. Its great to not get over use injuries, and is good for the head. My wife and I run, tandem. Next day she swims and I drink beer. It works out well.
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nice....it definitely helps prevent burnout...plus my legs and cardio are much stronger
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Yes, it's important to keep things fresh and try new body weight core techniques. I run or hike twice a week. Commute by bike. Strength training 3 times a week and probably the best thing I added was yoga once a week. That has greatly improved my flexibility as I age and minimized injuries.
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Yes, it's important to keep things fresh and try new body weight core techniques. I run or hike twice a week. Commute by bike. Strength training 3 times a week and probably the best thing I added was yoga once a week. That has greatly improved my flexibility as I age and minimized injuries.
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I've added yoga to my regimen for about 4 years now. There are all sorts of practices. It's like strength training...you can always change it up to keep things fresh from technique to pace. I also recommend one workout a week that's not a workout...for example I play soccer once a week in the winter. So it's a fun game and you're not thinking about the exercise.
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I swim and run as well as cycling. Although since my hip replacement in March of 2018 I'm not running the mileage that I was before. I have, however added more rides and swims.
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I disagree running is a far superior cardio workout compared to biking....and biking is a far superior leg workout compared to running ...I never find myself breathing hard on the bike and when I run I never get tired legs...if u want to increase ur cardio for biking then start running...
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for a cpl years I was weight training, playing racquetball, swimming, running & cycling. best shape of my life even tho I was over 50 (& was happy with a thorough body transformation)
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Yes, it's important to keep things fresh and try new body weight core techniques. I run or hike twice a week. Commute by bike. Strength training 3 times a week and probably the best thing I added was yoga once a week. That has greatly improved my flexibility as I age and minimized injuries.
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I disagree running is a far superior cardio workout compared to biking....and biking is a far superior leg workout compared to running ...I never find myself breathing hard on the bike and when I run I never get tired legs...if u want to increase ur cardio for biking then start running...
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Run about 5 days per week, 5 miles or so at a time. On the bike for longer rides on weekends, about 45 minutes a day on weekends. Occasionally some yoga, but am always doing stretching in there. Someone mentioned the beer, that is a multiple times per week exercise as well, usually curling 12-16 oz at a time for multiple sets. Seriously, though, I need more upper body work. I used to cross in the gym when I ran more, need to get serious again. Not getting any younger.
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running is cardio king if u deny this ur seriously misguided.....I push out all the watts the legs can do if ur weak in cardio u will be panting like a dog...
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running is cardio king if u deny this ur seriously misguided.....I push out all the watts the legs can do if ur weak in cardio u will be panting like a dog...
However, the peak loads are higher on the bike, particularly in sustained heavy climbing. I can also ride around in the 52-12 and it's like doing squats.
I can do a 20-mile ride without an issue at my current level of conditioning, but I'd be hard pressed to finish 3 miles in less than 30 minutes on foot.
I'd say training for running probably gives you a 1:5 ratio to cycling, If you're up for running 10 miles, then a 50-mile ride shouldn't be an issue. It doesn't quite go the other way, though, since cycling doesn't give you the impact conditioning for running.
Besides cycling and running, I also do strength training, both traditional weights, and CrossFit style functional training. Since i'm often away from the bike for a couple of weeks at a time, it keeps me in shape for when I get back on the road.
Like a lot of the others around here, I've also found that yoga and focused stretching helps with balance and core focus, as well as keeping your mobility up when you're in between workouts.
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It's good to mix things up...Multi-sport and cross training is a lot healthier and you also achieve a much better overall fitness then just doing one single sport or activity.
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I ride 50 + miles routinely and find cardio is not a limiting factor for me ...riding its all in how strong and how much endurance ur legs have......long sustained climbs will eventually burn out the leg muscles long before the heart rate gets to high...and running ur heart rate will go way to high long before ur legs give out...…...riding is. 75% legs and 25 % heart...and running is 75% heart and 25% legs...if u run correctly the impact is a lot less than people say
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It depends. Head over and read up some topics on Slowtwitch.
I race bikes for fun, but brick a run sometimes for the extra aerobic.
Running I actually have a much larger cardiovascular ceiling than my legs and weekly mileage allows me to use.
I can hold 180s bpm on the bike for 20ish minutes. On a run I get to about 170 and legs won’t turn over any faster. Cardio wise I should be able to do a sub 20min 5k. Legs and run mileage, that’s a huge nope.
Running is super economical for time with aerobic work though. Anaerobic, either works. Maybe even edge to the bike for anaerobic since it is non impact and can trash the legs as long as the energy stores allow. Running anaerobic form breaks down and you have to stop.
I race bikes for fun, but brick a run sometimes for the extra aerobic.
Running I actually have a much larger cardiovascular ceiling than my legs and weekly mileage allows me to use.
I can hold 180s bpm on the bike for 20ish minutes. On a run I get to about 170 and legs won’t turn over any faster. Cardio wise I should be able to do a sub 20min 5k. Legs and run mileage, that’s a huge nope.
Running is super economical for time with aerobic work though. Anaerobic, either works. Maybe even edge to the bike for anaerobic since it is non impact and can trash the legs as long as the energy stores allow. Running anaerobic form breaks down and you have to stop.
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It depends. Head over and read up some topics on Slowtwitch.
I race bikes for fun, but brick a run sometimes for the extra aerobic.
Running I actually have a much larger cardiovascular ceiling than my legs and weekly mileage allows me to use.
I can hold 180s bpm on the bike for 20ish minutes. On a run I get to about 170 and legs won’t turn over any faster. Cardio wise I should be able to do a sub 20min 5k. Legs and run mileage, that’s a huge nope.
Running is super economical for time with aerobic work though. Anaerobic, either works. Maybe even edge to the bike for anaerobic since it is non impact and can trash the legs as long as the energy stores allow. Running anaerobic form breaks down and you have to stop.
I race bikes for fun, but brick a run sometimes for the extra aerobic.
Running I actually have a much larger cardiovascular ceiling than my legs and weekly mileage allows me to use.
I can hold 180s bpm on the bike for 20ish minutes. On a run I get to about 170 and legs won’t turn over any faster. Cardio wise I should be able to do a sub 20min 5k. Legs and run mileage, that’s a huge nope.
Running is super economical for time with aerobic work though. Anaerobic, either works. Maybe even edge to the bike for anaerobic since it is non impact and can trash the legs as long as the energy stores allow. Running anaerobic form breaks down and you have to stop.
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It's not just pro cyclists that have scrawny upper bodies...Most endurance athletes including long distance runners, long distance cyclists and triathletes have scrawny and weak upper bodies. It's just the nature of their sport, endurance training isn't conductive to muscle and strength building. The only way for an endurance athlete to increase strength and muscle is to cross-train and supplement their training with weights and resistance training...Cycling is much lower impact than running and better for preserving muscle. The only runners who are muscular are the sprinters because they do a lot of weight training besides their running, majority of marathon runners are scrawny twigs.
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It's not just pro cyclists that have scrawny upper bodies...Most endurance athletes including long distance runners, long distance cyclists and triathletes have scrawny and weak upper bodies. It's just the nature of their sport, endurance training isn't conductive to muscle and strength building. The only way for an endurance athlete to increase strength and muscle is to cross-train and supplement their training with weights and resistance training...Cycling is much lower impact than running and better for preserving muscle. The only runners who are muscular are the sprinters because they do a lot of weight training besides their running, majority of marathon runners are scrawny twigs.
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I’m 34. That’s for an ftp test or TT only. Most interval training is under that. 20min is exaggerated, maybe the last 10 minutes of the 20min test.
Maybe twice a year.
Resting rate is into the 40’s nowadays.
Maybe twice a year.
Resting rate is into the 40’s nowadays.
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running is cardio king if u deny this ur seriously misguided.....I push out all the watts the legs can do if ur weak in cardio u will be panting like a dog...sounds like ur a dog....u .need to man up and try to run 10 miles without having a heart attack....those that cant usually talk like u do
Generally, XC skiing has the highest VO2Max so more intense cardio workout than either running or cycling. Nevertheless if you want to get fast on the bike it's best to ride more. There are zero elite cyclists who use running as a primary part of their training.
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Downhill skiing is an excellent cross for a shorter distance faster, explosive rider, while X-country for a longer distance - except that will lead to a larger upper body, usually a detriment to long rides (cause of hills).
So I'd bet on the downhill skier to be faster than the x-country skier in anything under 30 min and likely an hour (race). But the X-country skier may have the lower resting HR and measure fitter in the lab.
Rowing (crew) also is a great cross. It tends to be a pretty short event, and is less explosive, but they deal with lactic acid build-up and the limits of what the body can do as far as power output.
All sports have their own nuances and technique that makes things "easier". A less fit experienced rower is going to row faster than the fitter newbie.
Swimming is a great cardio, cross but not so much useful leg work. Even kicking is more aerobic. But doing that 1 day a week as a mental break can be good.
So I'd bet on the downhill skier to be faster than the x-country skier in anything under 30 min and likely an hour (race). But the X-country skier may have the lower resting HR and measure fitter in the lab.
Rowing (crew) also is a great cross. It tends to be a pretty short event, and is less explosive, but they deal with lactic acid build-up and the limits of what the body can do as far as power output.
All sports have their own nuances and technique that makes things "easier". A less fit experienced rower is going to row faster than the fitter newbie.
Swimming is a great cardio, cross but not so much useful leg work. Even kicking is more aerobic. But doing that 1 day a week as a mental break can be good.



