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Basically, it's a hybrid between Germanic and Romance language, with borrowed "rules" getting applied in weird and inconsistent ways. Bicycle is a borrowed French word, and kept a Frenchish pronunciation, motorcycle didn't get into English that way, so kept the English pronunciation of cycle.
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If we were adhering to the French pronunciation we'd say Bee-sickle not Bye-sickle. Also, although I'm not the one to correct anyone on French it sounds to me like they're saying bee-see-klet not bee-sick-let.
So that's not it.
While we're on the tangent, motocyclette sounds the same as bicyclette so at least it that part makes sense in French.
So that's not it.
While we're on the tangent, motocyclette sounds the same as bicyclette so at least it that part makes sense in French.
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So? I've never heard anyone pronounce "esickle", it's always "esighkull". I realize "ebike" is more common, but if you really want smoke to come out of your ears, why is motorcycle always shortened to "bike"?
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I haven't actually ever heard anyone say e-cycle out loud, but I'd probably also say e-sigh-kul also. Everything-cycle is that way except bicycle - maybe we're all saying it wrong, all this time.
I never refer to my "bike" unless the other person already knows I'm a sicklist because they always want to know how many cc's. I'm sticking with sicklest now, it has to be right when we're riding bisickles.
Which is another question: if you were to shorten bicycle to cycle would you say it sickle or cycle? Ever say "I'm going to 'cycle to the store?" I do ... and I say sigh-kul.
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So, I thought you said the pronunciation derived from the French bicylette but it doesn't sound like it, so I'm doubting you.
I haven't actually ever heard anyone say e-cycle out loud, but I'd probably also say e-sigh-kul also. Everything-cycle is that way except bicycle - maybe we're all saying it wrong, all this time.
I never refer to my "bike" unless the other person already knows I'm a sicklist because they always want to know how many cc's. I'm sticking with sicklest now, it has to be right when we're riding bisickles.
Which is another question: if you were to shorten bicycle to cycle would you say it sickle or cycle? Ever say "I'm going to 'cycle to the store?" I do ... and I say sigh-kul.
I haven't actually ever heard anyone say e-cycle out loud, but I'd probably also say e-sigh-kul also. Everything-cycle is that way except bicycle - maybe we're all saying it wrong, all this time.
I never refer to my "bike" unless the other person already knows I'm a sicklist because they always want to know how many cc's. I'm sticking with sicklest now, it has to be right when we're riding bisickles.
Which is another question: if you were to shorten bicycle to cycle would you say it sickle or cycle? Ever say "I'm going to 'cycle to the store?" I do ... and I say sigh-kul.
Cyclical is often pronounced with the short i sound. Otherwise, I only know of tricycle and bicycle.
Sorry, but we're trying to explain one syllable of the word. Given that we can come up with dozens of counter-examples for every alleged pronunciation rule, and those examples include "ecycle", I just don't think anything but a historical explanation is plausible. Obviously, we are guessing at this point, but it seems a rather large coincidence that the word was imported from France and has a syllable in it that sounds closer to the French pronunciation of the root word than the English. Neither ecycle nor motorcycle were imported words, and they didn't carry over the semi-French pronunciation when the new compounds were coined.
If you know anything about vowel shifts, the change from bee to bi in the English pronunciation is quite normal, but a shift from sighcle to sickle would probably never happen in English.
You "cycle" to the store? I just ride or bike, two perfectly good one-syllable words.
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Well sure, a cyclist engages the act of cycling, which is to cycle. So I cycle to the store.
But since I've decided that it should be sicklist, I'll be changing that now to "sickle to the store".
But since I've decided that it should be sicklist, I'll be changing that now to "sickle to the store".
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