How many times have you had your shoe hit the front wheel when doing a track stand or similar? It almost took my down a few times. I went down to a smaller frameset and this is what happens. I am not looking to change to a shorter crankset. I just need to be more careful when I am in a track stand.

The cool kids put their thread in just one place.

Sorry about that. I'll remove it from the other forum.

I've done this recently with a 50cm Trek 620 I just built up. Scare the bejesus out of me both time. I'll have to teach myself to not take sharp turns while pedaling with this bike.

I've had toe overlap on my last several road and gravel bikes. I adapted to it a long time ago. Non-issue for me.

It only bothers me on ultra slow semi technical climbing. 1-4mph, way grannied down, and steering around rocks and ruts. On a gravel bike, any MTB worth it's salt won't have this.

Track standing is a bike related trick. Not unlike using a handlebar as a musical instrument or wearing a helmet in spin class. It's not actually riding so I don't count it.

LOL Some recumbents have heel strike, and some uprights have toe strike. You usually just learn to live with it.

Meh. Toe overlap is no big deal for some people, and a very big deal for others. I am in the former camp. The worst toe overlap I have encountered is on my Look 496 TT bike, but then, it is designed to work best at speeds over 40 kph. An odd combination, a bike designed to be stable at high speed, yet the front wheel is very close to your feet. Only time I had a problem was during an out and back time trial where I had to make a tight 180 degree turn. Next, my Look 481SL has some overlap despite having a relatively shallow 72 degree head angle, equally odd. I make shoe contact from time to time, but I can live with it given the otherwise perfect handing

It's just part of riding. If I really care to I can play around with pedal position to avoid it.

Some people are so bothered by it that they don't want others to have 700c-wheeled bicycles unless they're tall enough to comfortably ride a 56cm frame. Screw that!

I bought a Jamis Renegade (I guess what would be called a gravel bike) last year and love it. But my leg length and the frame geometry drove me to a smaller frame than previous bikes and I have toe overlap for the first time that I can remember. Really only an issue at a dead stop, especially on an uphill dead stop - like a traffic light or stop sign on an upslope.

Didn't take long for me to learn how to preplan my stops so my wheel, feet and pedals are positioned right to get going again without my shoe hitting the front tire. Kinda reminded me of when I first used clipless pedals - now just part of muscle memory, but at first freaky.