I don't think there's anything wrong with posting that "I've seen x bad behavior by cyclists repeatedly, don't do that" on a bicycle forum, and find it weird that people would consider that trolling. If this kind of littering is occurring, that's highly relevant to bicyclists because a) it's obvious that bicyclists are doing it and b) the stuff is most likely to pose a hazard to other bicyclists.

If you're littering while biking, knock it off. If not, why are you offended by the OP? I haven't witnessed this kind of littering, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

I really don't get the relevance of the beer can thing. Is that whataboutism, or is it two wrongs make a right?

Is somebody yelling????

He was crying for the canals in Venice. He should be smiling now.

It was his inflammatory tone, and his assumption that all of us “snobs” are the reason his wife crashed and his roads are littered.

Seems like folks love to put roadies down on this forum, and hold this sanctimonious attitude like their crap doesn’t stink. These are usually the same people shouting “steal is real!” and going on about how they just love their friction shifters and cantilever brakes.

We all have our preferences and tastes, yet it seems like roadies get trashed for theirs.

Three pages, any guilty Humboltians fess up yet?

when I was working, one person in our parking lot always tossed their banana peel on the ground outside their car. So its not only cyclists that litter banana peels

I was thinking, Mario Kart racers. They toss banana peels, turtle shells, etc.

Pssshhhhh....I'm in the UK now. I think it's cute how you complain about littering. Come on over here, for ****s sake this country is littered to ****. Disgusting.

Such a weird thing that I never thought I'd experience. Me and David Sedaris man, cleaning this country up one Cornetto wrapper at a time...

This topic reminds me of the "broken windows theory". People don't think litter is a big deal, but it's the symptom of a much larger societal problem.

I dont think I have ever seen a CO2 cartridge. What I see is the idiotic plastic water bottles, and the little one shot booze bottles. Calif has banned plastic straws, but allows bottled water. How many straws does it take to make one plastic water bottle? Plastic water bottles should be banned.

He posted SLOB Not snob.
I don't care for Snobs either but where is the correlation with Roadies?

If a murdered body is found and finger prints are lifted from a cyclist discarded air cartridge....I'm gonna have to laugh.

That's ridiculous.

Literally none of that is in his post, you're projecting into it for some reason. He used the phrase "cycling slobs" and I think it's a fair assumption that anyone who has been throwing those things around is indeed a) a cyclist and b) a slob. Nowhere does the word "snob" in the post or the title of the thread.

And, BTW, I'm a roadie myself.

If you've never seen a spent CO2 cartridge or a punctured tube lying on the ground, you either a) don't ride where large numbers of cyclists ride, b) live someplace fancy, or c) both a and b.

I do not live someplace fancy, so spent CO2s are commonplace. Get near the start of any trail or MUP, and you're sure to find Clif wrappers, all sorts of Gu stuff, etc.

It's roadies and the roadie mentality. I've never seen a big hybrid or MTB tube on the ground. Exclusively the 700x23/25 variety-- you know, the same guys that use CO2.

People who like steel are snobs? lol
I've never seen a co2 cartridge but both a and b apply to me, if I do see people it's usually dentists taking their 10k bike for a its monthly ride.

All that stuff that upsets you so much--it isn't in his post. Those are ideas you brought to the discussion. You're WAY too ready to 'defend' yourself against attacks that are not actually being made.
Secondarily, as a guy who loves friction shifting, cantilever brakes and steel frames, I'd appreciate it if you took that chip off your shoulder. I guess some retrogrouch was mean to you one time, but your remarks are starting to feel kinda personal.

::waves:: Hi! Finally, someone from my area! Yay!

I hear you about the cartridges; I commute on the safety corridor, and there are more cartridges than banana peels, and that's a lot! In fact, there are so many that I suspect they are mostly leftovers from N2O huffing. No way can there be that many littering cyclists. It's the glass holes that really drive me crazy. And the blown out semi tires. And the eucalyptus debris; so much eucalyptus debris. I've had to stop five or six times to pull sticks, branches, and the occasional limb off the shoulder.

I'm very sorry about your wife; I hope she recovered completely. As someone else said, maybe she could try getting back on the bike. It would be hard at first, but so worth it. I'll bet she'd love the Waterfront Trail.

This might be a regional thing.

I ride a very large range of roads and paths in New England, and I just don't see that. By far, the most biked area I ride in regularly is the Minuteman, and I just don't think that kind of littering is in the bike culture here.

+1 Been riding well-used MUPS in SE WI for decades..I think I've come across maybe 1 cylinder...and that one was full I think..it's around here somewhere.

I am a roadie. I didn't feel like the OP was calling me out. That shoe didn't fit. I am left to wonder why anyone would get defensive.

These are the most dangerous folks. Banana peels are responsible for more slip and fall accidents and more auto Mobile pile ups than anything

its science. I mean, watch a cartoon for heavens sake!

The real problem with banana peels is they're hard to avoid--I tend to miss them while watching the skies for falling pianos.

Now see that is regional. Never once seen a falling piano. But anvils? Brother, they're everywhere.

Around here, the worst situation is when you've dodged the piano and the anvil and then, out of nowhere, here comes the kitchen sink!

Well, it looks like people will continue to be inconsiderate because it's their perogative or their right to do so.