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Old 04-17-21, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Example? And what difference do the external dimensions make if they both fit in standard cages?
some good thermal containers use a double wall construction. The inside dia would have less capacity with a double wall, if both containers have the same O.D. & height.
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Old 04-17-21, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by vane171 View Post
I also don't think that cold drink is good for the organism (as pointed out above) and I am not a health freak who worries about that sort of thing, just a common sense.

I remember my grandma telling about a guy (in the old days, when she was young) who came home from working out in the fields in hot weather, laying down on tiled floor to cool himself off (no A/C in those days ) and catching some illness because of that (maybe pneumonia?) and dying from that some time later. Cold drink is a sort of similar shock to the body too.
That explains all the people dying at health clubs after jumping into the cold plunge, or all the Swedes and Norwegians that drop dead when they roll in snow following their sauna. I'm guessing Ben and Jerry have killed a lot of people also.
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Old 04-17-21, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Troul View Post
some good thermal containers use a double wall construction. The inside dia would have less capacity with a double wall, if both containers have the same O.D. & height.
Unresponsive.

How much less capacity do my insulated bottles have than which bottles fit in standard cages?
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Old 04-17-21, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
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How much less capacity do my insulated bottles have than which bottles fit in standard cages?
it should be indicated on the container somewhere if it has been manufactured by a known reputable brand sold in the United States. If the capacity is the same, & the exterior dimensions are both the same, then it's dark magic that makes the capacities the same. i just lug plain w/e temp it is water along to chug. The hassle is not for me to bring a gourmet beverage.
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Old 04-30-21, 04:11 PM
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camel bak with ice. works well in central Texas in august.
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Old 04-30-21, 04:40 PM
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I have a couple of those larger Podium Chill bottles. I like them. Beyond the insulation factor, I like the hands free spout. Itís easy to pull out the bottle, drink and put it back while riding, all with one hand.

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Old 05-01-21, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
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How much less capacity do my insulated bottles have than which bottles fit in standard cages?

two water bottles, one insulated, one uninsulated
Pictured above are two water bottles, insulated on the right, uninsulated on the left. Both bottles are labelled 750 mL (no, I didn't measure the volume; I'll assume they're close enough to labelled volume to not matter). The insulated bottle is approx. 5/8" taller than the uninsulated one. So yes, there is a difference in the size of an insulated bottle vs uninsulated of the same volume (and by extension, bottles of the same external dimensions will have different volumes). For me, the difference isn't enough to matter (if you have a small main triangle or use a frame bag and bottles are a tight fit, that 5/8" might make a difference).

As far as the effectiveness, I find that when I start out with a bottle filled with ice and topped off with cold water on a west Alabama summer day (90-100F temp, high humidity), after about 3 hours the insulated bottle isn't cold anymore, but it is still noticeably cooler than ambient temps. I don't usually bother to freeze bottles the night before, so I can't comment on how much more effective that might be compared to just filling with ice.
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Originally Posted by ted_major View Post

two water bottles, one insulated, one uninsulated
Pictured above are two water bottles, insulated on the right, uninsulated on the left. Both bottles are labelled 750 mL (no, I didn't measure the volume; I'll assume they're close enough to labelled volume to not matter). The insulated bottle is approx. 5/8" taller than the uninsulated one. So yes, there is a difference in the size of an insulated bottle vs uninsulated of the same volume (and by extension, bottles of the same external dimensions will have different volumes). For me, the difference isn't enough to matter (if you have a small main triangle or use a frame bag and bottles are a tight fit, that 5/8" might make a difference).

As far as the effectiveness, I find that when I start out with a bottle filled with ice and topped off with cold water on a west Alabama summer day (90-100F temp, high humidity), after about 3 hours the insulated bottle isn't cold anymore, but it is still noticeably cooler than ambient temps. I don't usually bother to freeze bottles the night before, so I can't comment on how much more effective that might be compared to just filling with ice.
Size (i.e., length) was not something my comment was concerned with. Capacity (i.e., volume) was. My 25 oz. insulated bottles fit in standard cages. One reason the brand is very popular.
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Old 05-01-21, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
CamelBak 25 oz. Podium Chill. Freeze overnight. Just make sure not to fill it to the brim before you freeze it.
I use those.

Our local C-store chain has 32 oz drink specials during the summer. With ice they are good for 30 minutes max. If i slip them in a small plastic bag like they have for hot dogs, the ice lasts twice as long.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Size (i.e., length) was not something my comment was concerned with. Capacity (i.e., volume) was. My 25 oz. insulated bottles fit in standard cages. One reason the brand is very popular.
Right. And if the same volume in an insulated bottle requires a larger size, then an insulated bottle of the same size will have a smaller volume.

For me, the difference isnít enough to matter, and I happily use insulated bottles.

If someone really wants to know how much less an insulated bottle holds compared to an equally sized uninsulated bottle, they should be able to calculate the difference. I think theyíre close enough to not worry about it.
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Old 05-01-21, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by alo View Post
Why not put your drinks into an insulated bag or container of some sort? If you have a rack, carry them on the rack.
I do that also. I bought insulated lunch box with sleeves which are frozen night before. They hold around 3 water bottles.

One has a handle strap which goes over the handle bars.
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Old 05-01-21, 10:33 AM
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The problem I have is with actually taking a sip before the drink is warm. Expecting the drink to remain cold for much more than an hour in hot conditions is maybe expecting too much, at least for me.

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