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Old 03-05-22, 10:18 AM
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About kick stands

Long story short, son moved out and the place where he is renting has storage in the garage but will not allow him to make holes in the wall for such as a bike hanger. His bike is ~2012 Specialized A1 with the Sora group. Traditionally, I would not put a kick stand on a road bike of that nature but would be better than having it tenuously leaned against a wall falling over and most importantly into the VERY nice car that homeowner has parked in close proximity.

So, the jungle site has quite a few options in the roughly $10 range:
There is the "square block and bolt" type that mount right behind the bottom bracket. I don't think this one will fit on his bike due to how narrow the tubes are there as well as the routing of the cables.
There is one that is semi oval and uses a clamp with 4 screws which mounts to the chain stay. This one seems like it would work well but am concerned about the shape of it in relation to the tubes on this bike. I have never personally used this type.
There is the one that mounts at the rear axle. My own experience with this type is that the bike is unstable and falls over anyway.

For those of you using the one that mounts to the chain stay, how do you select, or does it even matter in relation to the shape of the stay? Do those type come with a variety of spacers/rubber/etc. to allow for a variety of applications?
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I’ve witnessed the damage a chain stay mounted kickstand can do. In this case, the damage was caused by the kickstand clamp twisting on the stay, scraping the paint and aluminum. The owner decided that the solution was to clamp the kickstand down even tighter, crushing the stay. A similar problem exists with the type that clamp behind the bottom bracket; crushed chain stays.

There is a chain stay kickstand option that clamps to both the chain stay and the seat stay. Rotational forces are countered with two mounting points, eliminating the need for excessive torque on the chain stay. If the kickstand doesn’t include some type of rubber frame protection, I’d add a thin strip or maybe a piece of discarded hose.
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A self-adhering Velcro strap long enough to bind one of the brake levers closed is a quick and easy way to help immobilize a leaning bike.

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How about a bungee cord through the front wheel and strapped to the downtube to keep it from rolling or the wheel from flopping, then another bungee to attach the bicycle to a fixed feature in the garage (post, wall doohikee, or ???). Cheap as you can get.
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I'd get a bike stand, something like this RAD Cycle Black 1-Bike Portable Floor Stand Garage Bike Rack HWD630532 (homedepot.com) rather than put a kickstand on my bike. Now that you've prompted me to think about it, I might get one for my bike that is leaning against the wall in my garage.
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Old 03-05-22, 11:35 AM
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I have used the chainstay mounted stands and they're relatively stable, but hell on the bike finish. You could use a piece of old innertube around the stay before attaching one, but I think I would go with locking the brakes somehow to prevent it moving. That in itself is a great way to add stability when leaning against an object.
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I'd go with a stand

https://www.jensonusa.com/Foundation-Bike-Stand
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The simplest and cheapest hack that I can think of is a simple elastic band. Loop the elastic band over the inner tube valve of the front wheel, stretch it over the downtube and back over the inner tube valve from the other side. This will immobilize the bike and not allow the handlebars to turn. You can then lean the bike against a wall without worry. I have a bowl full of elastic bands in my kitchen that were wrapped around mail that I received, an unlimited free supply
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Why not just use a simple floor stand?
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Originally Posted by ofajen View Post
A self-adhering Velcro strap long enough to bind one of the brake levers closed is a quick and easy way to help immobilize a leaning bike.

Otto
Lol, we used to secure our trikes this way. Didn't even enter my mind.
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Some good ideas here. Similar situation exists at the store where this will likely be ridden to, so...
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Some good ideas here. Similar situation exists at the store where this will likely be ridden to, so...
Does the store not have bike stands? Personally I wouldn't overthink that particular scenario. You can lean a bike up against a wall and it won't fall over very easily.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski View Post
Does the store not have bike stands? Personally I wouldn't overthink that particular scenario. You can lean a bike up against a wall and it won't fall over very easily.
Unfortunately, our local area has nearly nothing in place for cyclists. I myself have just taken my bike inside the store with me. The other option around here seems to be to lock your bike to a light pole if you can find one small enough.
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Old 03-05-22, 06:53 PM
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My super fly custom ti bike leans against a wall in my house. It has never fallen over despite sharing the place with a 20 lb. cat.
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If they plan on doing their own light duty maintenance, I'd consider a work stand.

https://www.backcountry.com/topeak-f...and-work-stand
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I find used bicycle inner tubes make great tie straps in the garage. Cut a short section containing the valve stem out and throw it away. The remainder can be used as a tie strap to keep the bike upright or whatever. Since the tube material is soft and grippy, a simple knot (tied lightly so it's easy to untie) will hold it. It's also great for bundling garden hose, extension cords, thin pieces of lumber, you name it. It can be cut to length. It's free. And can be thrown away when no longer needed.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski View Post
Why not just use a simple floor stand?
When folks need to hang up their bikes, they are usually congested for space.

A floor stand is dangerous for a permanent solution. They always get bumped accidentally, doing more damage to said bike intended to protect.

I've got a ton of Topeak stands, I use them permanently despite their temporary tooless design without use of any fasteners.

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Originally Posted by soyabean View Post
When folks need to hang up their bikes, they are usually congested for space.

A floor stand is dangerous for a permanent solution. They always get bumped accidentally, doing more damage to said bike intended to protect.

I've got a ton of Topeak stands, I use them permanently despite their temporary tooless design without use of any fasteners.

Very nice solution, but looks like overkill for the OP's needs! Remember he's got one bike in a rented garage. I've got most of our bikes on wall hangers and a couple of floor stands I use. Never had an issue with floor stands. Similar to this one in style

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Originally Posted by Random11 View Post
I'd get a bike stand, something like this RAD Cycle Black 1-Bike Portable Floor Stand Garage Bike Rack HWD630532 (homedepot.com) rather than put a kickstand on my bike. Now that you've prompted me to think about it, I might get one for my bike that is leaning against the wall in my garage.
I have that stand on one of our bikes in the garage. Works fine.
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
bike is ~2012 Specialized A1 with the Sora group.
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falling over and most importantly into the VERY nice car that homeowner has parked in close proximity.
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looks like overkill for the OP's needs!
Explain how is it overkill?

Overkill in contrast to the value of a 2012 Specialized A1?

Overkill in contrast to damage caused by "falling over .. into the VERY nice car"?

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My own experience with this type is that the bike is unstable and falls over anyway.
Exactly.
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I've never had a bike fall over while leaned against a wall.

I also sometimes lean my bike against my car.

Good god, I'm living dangerously.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
My super fly custom ti bike leans against a wall in my house. It has never fallen over despite sharing the place with a 20 lb. cat.
Your cat weighs more than your bike. That's cool.
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A fold up pole like a tent pole and then elastic strap to lock brakes. Not my bike, captured from site.





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Use it away from the house but not permanently attached to the bike
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike View Post
I find used bicycle inner tubes make great tie straps in the garage. Cut a short section containing the valve stem out and throw it away. The remainder can be used as a tie strap to keep the bike upright or whatever. Since the tube material is soft and grippy, a simple knot (tied lightly so it's easy to untie) will hold it. It's also great for bundling garden hose, extension cords, thin pieces of lumber, you name it. It can be cut to length. It's free. And can be thrown away when no longer needed.
Yup. Can even use them to prevent the garage door from opening when the keys are in the pocket and press the button. Of course, a 3d printed sleeve might be more attractive but I don't have such a printer. Also a larger inner tube wrapped around my metal water bottle keeps it from rattling in the car's cup holder.
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