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rydabent 08-27-22 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22626153)
Here's the thing, I talk to people all the time about their bents both on bf and irl. I don't think bents are for me for really good reasons that I've explained several times, but I'm a curious guy, and those people have been polite, patient and generous with their time.

Not a single one of them has been so rude, ignorant, and boorish as to tell me how they think I ride, call me a liar when their suppositions turned out to be wrong, suggest my bike was somehow obsolete, nor make stupid observations that demonstrated that they thought they knew a lot more about DF bikes than they actually did.

Your behavior has been inexcusable. You now have the nerve to suggest that all you've been advocating for is for people to augment their fleet of human powered vehicles. You've got wayyyyyyyyy too many posts that clearly have stated again and again that df bikes are awful and obsolete technologies to lie about what you've been pushing now.

You're literally the LAST person in the world that anyone on bf would turn to if they actually wanted to learn something about the differences between df and bents, largely because you are obviously completely ignorant and close-minded about how people actually do ride df bikes. Your credibility is squat, your accusations snide and stupid, and you have a victim complex that makes it actually impossible for you to rationally exchange information.

And the horse you rode in on.

My horse is NOT that kind of horse!!!

BTW I have noticed that if you dont follow lock step in conventional thinking when it comes to cycling, the people pointing that our are all lot like DF saddles, a pain in the ass!!!!!! They are closed minded, run with the herd, and totally unwilling to accept anything new.

BTW have you given up on your wooden rims yet**********?

terrymorse 08-27-22 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22626136)
Money talks and you cant prove the member of the UCI were not influenced by bike mfg at the time.

You can’t prove there isn’t a teapot orbiting the Sun between Mars and Jupiter. Therefore, your entire argument comes crumbling down.

Trsnrtr 08-27-22 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22626188)
Thanks, I don't know about these. Are there leagues or circuit kind of events?

I know about the HPVA, but I was under the impression that's mostly record attempts rather than racing. Is that wrong?

I don’t follow much recumbent stuff anymore but I did just check the HPRA calendar at www.recumbents.com and it shows a racing weekend at Hawkeye Downs in Cedar Rapids, IA next month. They list numerous events over two days.

badger1 08-27-22 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22626136)
I would suggest that you are the one that doesnt know much bike history. It was when a bent broke the one hour time held by Egg, that the cycling community became unhinged about bents. Money talks and you cant prove the member of the UCI were not influenced by bike mfg at the time.

Incorrect, both in general and in particular; that's not to mention the 'logic' of the above statement. I've no interest in continuing this silly discourse. You will continue to hold your peculiar beliefs; I will continue to rely on my life-long study of and understanding of the history of cycling in general, and of the history of professional cycle racing and the UCI etc. That's all; I'm out of this ridiculous 'discussion'.

3alarmer 08-27-22 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22626231)

BTW I have noticed that if you dont follow lock step in conventional thinking when it comes to cycling, the people pointing that our are all lot like DF saddles, a pain in the ass!!!!!!
They are closed minded, run with the herd, and totally unwilling to accept anything new.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c316d11fe7.jpg

3alarmer 08-27-22 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22626166)
Do you honestly think that UCI has the power to make popular types of bikes unpopular?
....

,,,they could outlaw saddles. But it would only create a new huge market for "adult" seat post designs.

3alarmer 08-27-22 07:31 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6ede03926b.jpg

3alarmer 08-27-22 07:35 PM

.
...god forgive me if I ever attempt a bicycle speed record. I'm not even on Strava.:ride:

Maelochs 08-27-22 07:36 PM

Eventually it all comes down to "I don't argue with Flat-Earthers."

Rydabent, so close to being what an old rider should be .... and such a perfect example of what an older human being should not be.

If I ever live somewhere where I can safely ride a trike, i will still offer to ride with him someday ... if he says this stuff on BF, imagine what he cut loose with while riding! I'd bring a recorder and extra batteries.

Oh, and Ryda ... 'bents aren't trikes and vice versa.

But the Earth is flat ... out where you ride.

Happy trails, no matter what you use to cover the distance.

genejockey 08-27-22 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 22626355)

Yes, it rather feels as if they've had plenty of time to catch on, and haven't. It can't all be Big Bike.

Speaking of Big Bike....
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c41c106600.jpg
Hey, so we ride Diamond Frame bikes, but clearly some people don't like it, so are they Conflict Diamond Frames?

genejockey 08-27-22 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22626372)
Eventually it all comes down to "I don't argue with Flat-Earthers."

Rydabent, so close to being what an old rider should be .... and such a perfect example of what an older human being should not be.

We should all get off his lawn.

genejockey 08-27-22 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22626166)
Do you honestly think that UCI has the power to make popular types of bikes unpopular?

I feel like we're in danger of crossing the streams....
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cf34f9e40.jpg

livedarklions 08-27-22 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22626231)
My horse is NOT that kind of horse!!!

BTW I have noticed that if you dont follow lock step in conventional thinking when it comes to cycling, the people pointing that our are all lot like DF saddles, a pain in the ass!!!!!! They are closed minded, run with the herd, and totally unwilling to accept anything new.

BTW have you given up on your wooden rims yet**********?


I'm taking this completely incoherent response as you admitting you can't defend anything you've ever said on the subject.

Why are you using the ancient technology of wheels? Caterpillar drives are much more modern.

I can't use a bent because anything that requires me to brace my lower back against a seat is going to hurt me due to an injury. I don't have an open mind about that.

livedarklions 08-27-22 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22626372)
Eventually it all comes down to "I don't argue with Flat-Earthers."

Rydabent, so close to being what an old rider should be .... and such a perfect example of what an older human being should not be.

If I ever live somewhere where I can safely ride a trike, i will still offer to ride with him someday ... if he says this stuff on BF, imagine what he cut loose with while riding! I'd bring a recorder and extra batteries.

Oh, and Ryda ... 'bents aren't trikes and vice versa.

But the Earth is flat ... out where you ride.

Happy trails, no matter what you use to cover the distance.

I couldn't imagine a worse social situation than listening to his oral flatulence in person.

livedarklions 08-27-22 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22626422)
I feel like we're in danger of crossing the streams....
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cf34f9e40.jpg


Still waiting for him to show us the UCI-sanctioned ebike and beach cruiser races.

3alarmer 08-28-22 12:08 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5de5e5638.jpg

livedarklions 08-28-22 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 22626552)


You realize that the stick was invented in 25000 b.c.e., right? Definitely should be replaced with the telescoping wheel jammer.
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rydabent 08-28-22 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22626372)
Eventually it all comes down to "I don't argue with Flat-Earthers."

Rydabent, so close to being what an old rider should be .... and such a perfect example of what an older human being should not be.

If I ever live somewhere where I can safely ride a trike, i will still offer to ride with him someday ... if he says this stuff on BF, imagine what he cut loose with while riding! I'd bring a recorder and extra batteries.

Oh, and Ryda ... 'bents aren't trikes and vice versa.

But the Earth is flat ... out where you ride.

Happy trails, no matter what you use to cover the distance.

Flat earth doest exist. If it did, cats would have knocked everything off by now.

big john 08-28-22 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22626114)
Back in '34 there is a 99.993% chance that the UCI members took money under the table from some bike mfg, because they had so much invested in DF jigs and fixtures. If they had to start producing bents, they would need all new machinery.!!!!

This is some of the silliest crap you have ever posted. Have you ever built a frame? Ever seen it done? Ever been to a frame shop?

Maelochs 08-28-22 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22626786)
This is some of the silliest crap you have ever posted. Have you ever built a frame? Ever seen it done? Ever been to a frame shop?

Dude ... are you trying to use ... logic?

LOLOLOL ....

Tools for jobs, friend. Logic is Not the best tool in this situation .... not even a marginally effective tool. Not even recognized as existing.

In certain threads .... if you are making sense you are wasting time.

big john 08-28-22 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22627153)
Dude ... are you trying to use ... logic?

LOLOLOL ....

Tools for jobs, friend. Logic is Not the best tool in this situation .... not even a marginally effective tool. Not even recognized as existing.

In certain threads .... if you are making sense you are wasting time.

I'm known to beat my head against the wall at times.

livedarklions 08-28-22 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22626786)
This is some of the silliest crap you have ever posted. Have you ever built a frame? Ever seen it done? Ever been to a frame shop?


He's actually claiming that manufacturers were afraid of creating demand for a new product at the worst of the Great Depression when the worst economic problem was the lack of demand for much of anything.

datlas 08-28-22 02:24 PM

Stop Making Sense.


3alarmer 08-28-22 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22627180)
I'm known to beat my head against the wall at times.

...you're probably one of those people who just cannot resist putting a stick in your front wheel. You should ride a recumbent. :D

big john 08-28-22 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22627191)
He's actually claiming that manufacturers were afraid of creating demand for a new product at the worst of the Great Depression when the worst economic problem was the lack of demand for much of anything.

He'd never write anything so innocuous. If he's not advancing some conspiracy theory then he's insulting anyone who doesn't do what he does.


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