What did I miss while on 'vacation'?
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What did I miss while on 'vacation'?
What happened to the 'bicycle mechanics' section?
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Glad you are back, you didn't miss much, the usual craziness!
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I'm not seeing the mechanics section...am I somehow selectively banned from just that section?
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https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/
What did you do to incur the wrath?
I doubt the forum software is sufficiently nuanced to ban you just from a sub-forum, but if there is a Hell, it might be one in which you were forever damned to answer mechanical inquiries wrongly posted to the General Cycling sub-forum.
What did you do to incur the wrath?
I doubt the forum software is sufficiently nuanced to ban you just from a sub-forum, but if there is a Hell, it might be one in which you were forever damned to answer mechanical inquiries wrongly posted to the General Cycling sub-forum.
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Apparently I'm still banned from that section. I got the vacation for being a dick nearly all the time. I'm 'toxic'.
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Interesting. Even though I haven't always agreed with you, you never seemed to be a dick when debating with me. You're firm on your opinions but I don't recall you calling any names, using profanity, or doing anything else that would have been worthy of a timeout.
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Banning one of the most helpful and competent professional mechanics from the bike mechanics sub-forum is shooting themselves in both feet.
If you give them $12 a year, that is viewed as a contribution.
If you give them (and their paying 'customers' as well as us dirt-bags) many hours of your time and professional experience, including unvarnished truths not diluted with fake diplomacy, somehow that is regarded as problematic.
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If you give them $12 a year, that is viewed as a contribution.
If you give them (and their paying 'customers' as well as us dirt-bags) many hours of your time and professional experience, including unvarnished truths not diluted with fake diplomacy, somehow that is regarded as problematic.
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Also, now if I need mechanical advice, I will feel compelled to post it into some other forum.
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It's there, just like normal.
Unfortunate that apparently you've been censored from it..one of the best wrenches here on BF is excluded from an area where he's an expert.
Well..at least we still have insightful new threads like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?" to learn from.
Unfortunate that apparently you've been censored from it..one of the best wrenches here on BF is excluded from an area where he's an expert.
Well..at least we still have insightful new threads like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?" to learn from.
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Many people feel I am one at work but in nearly 38 years with the company, I have yet to parlay it into more vacation time.
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Your knowledge notwithstanding, I agree with that assessment.
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The best scientists and bike mechanics are rarely feel-good back-slapping sycophants.
Sometimes honesty and sincerity really are more important and valuable traits.
Sometimes honesty and sincerity really are more important and valuable traits.
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Hi guys, first of all I must remind you that we never, EVER discuss the particulars of a disciplinary action in public. That is private information, even if only by the fact that it is delivered in a private message (PM). But that’s not what I’m going to do here. This is just an ideal opportunity to discuss some related forum norms here.
In reading through this thread we are actually surprised at what appears to be acceptance of rude behavior amongst many of you senior posters here. You clearly recognize it for what it is, rude and insulting behavior, and you find it ok. So this message apples to everybody.
Look, I get it, there is nothing like the camaraderie built up amongst guys in the locker room of athletic pursuits. BF is actually a virtual locker room where you senior guys can hang out and horse around and be the ruffians that testosterone tends to make us. All that is fine, I love it! Usually, in real locker rooms, it’s also typical to give the rookies or newbies a hard time, bust their chops, ostensibly to see if they deserve inclusion in the cherished group of regulars. But we can’t allow that here. These forums rely on a steady stream of new users to remain viable. We can’t have the senior guys beating up on the junior guys. These new guys didn’t come here with the expectation of getting roughed up, they came here either to join the club or they came here for information.
So maybe you guys need to keep the roughhousing to yourselves and treat our new guys with considerably more respect. That shouldn’t be difficult, you can view how many posts a user has right with his userID. It shouldn’t be difficult to be respectful to ANYONE, but it’s particularly harmful to be rude, nasty, or disrespectful to our newbies. I must admit, this is a particularly pet peeve of BillyD. I sort of see it as bullying, and I hate bullying. (Everybody has baggage, that’s just mine.) So please be nice to our newbies, they didn’t come here to get insulted or otherwise mistreated. You all had dumb questions when you were new in this game, be patient and let them fire theirs off. If you don’t like a “dumb question”, move on to a different thread. If you see a thread topic that is well worn, like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?", JUST MOVE ON, find another thread more to your liking. Don’t be a locker room bully, don’t be a dick. Be especially nice to our newbies. I’m afraid we must insist.
In reading through this thread we are actually surprised at what appears to be acceptance of rude behavior amongst many of you senior posters here. You clearly recognize it for what it is, rude and insulting behavior, and you find it ok. So this message apples to everybody.
Look, I get it, there is nothing like the camaraderie built up amongst guys in the locker room of athletic pursuits. BF is actually a virtual locker room where you senior guys can hang out and horse around and be the ruffians that testosterone tends to make us. All that is fine, I love it! Usually, in real locker rooms, it’s also typical to give the rookies or newbies a hard time, bust their chops, ostensibly to see if they deserve inclusion in the cherished group of regulars. But we can’t allow that here. These forums rely on a steady stream of new users to remain viable. We can’t have the senior guys beating up on the junior guys. These new guys didn’t come here with the expectation of getting roughed up, they came here either to join the club or they came here for information.
So maybe you guys need to keep the roughhousing to yourselves and treat our new guys with considerably more respect. That shouldn’t be difficult, you can view how many posts a user has right with his userID. It shouldn’t be difficult to be respectful to ANYONE, but it’s particularly harmful to be rude, nasty, or disrespectful to our newbies. I must admit, this is a particularly pet peeve of BillyD. I sort of see it as bullying, and I hate bullying. (Everybody has baggage, that’s just mine.) So please be nice to our newbies, they didn’t come here to get insulted or otherwise mistreated. You all had dumb questions when you were new in this game, be patient and let them fire theirs off. If you don’t like a “dumb question”, move on to a different thread. If you see a thread topic that is well worn, like "I'm hunting for a new bike, what frame material is best?" or "what chain lube should I use?", or "do red socks make me faster?", JUST MOVE ON, find another thread more to your liking. Don’t be a locker room bully, don’t be a dick. Be especially nice to our newbies. I’m afraid we must insist.

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