Does Not "Comepute"...
05-25-23 | 05:37 AM
#26
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05-25-23 | 10:42 AM
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05-26-23 | 07:27 PM
#28
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My wife has a really good friend who is from Japan. They were at a restaurant one night with several others on a girls night out. There was a young woman at the table next to them that had a tattoo across her back. She over heard her tell the people at their table that it meant peace to the world. Saori, started laughing and when my wife asked her what was so funny, she told her that they actually put Stupid White Girl. She said whoever did it was actually quite skilled because it was fairly small and the lines were really tight as the used kanji with is quite complex. She has been trying to teach me to understand Japanese as I am looking to take a trip with my wife in the next few year, but it is a hard language to learn late in life.
I had a coworker at another job who was a sailor. He married a Japanese woman and she taught him Japanese, like you're learning. The trick with Japanese (so it was explained to me) is that there are distinct gender differences with the language. Not like western gender languages (e.g. Spanish, German, etc.) where words have a specific gender. No, in Japanese, a female will use one word and a male will use a completely different word for the same thing.
At least that's the way it was explained to me.
05-26-23 | 08:29 PM
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05-26-23 | 08:34 PM
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Be careful with how she teaches you.
I had a coworker at another job who was a sailor. He married a Japanese woman and she taught him Japanese, like you're learning. The trick with Japanese (so it was explained to me) is that there are distinct gender differences with the language. Not like western gender languages (e.g. Spanish, German, etc.) where words have a specific gender. No, in Japanese, a female will use one word and a male will use a completely different word for the same thing.
At least that's the way it was explained to me.
I had a coworker at another job who was a sailor. He married a Japanese woman and she taught him Japanese, like you're learning. The trick with Japanese (so it was explained to me) is that there are distinct gender differences with the language. Not like western gender languages (e.g. Spanish, German, etc.) where words have a specific gender. No, in Japanese, a female will use one word and a male will use a completely different word for the same thing.
At least that's the way it was explained to me.
I was somewhat conversational in German growing up as my mothers side of the family came over from Germany in the early 1700's and the language carried forward with each generation. I remember my grand mother only speaking German to my mother and it drove her nuts. We did not live in the same town as my grandmother, so it was not something I got really versed in, and while my mother was fluent, (speaking\writing\reading), she did not force it on us. She never spoke to us in German unless we asked her to or how to say something. Being a somewhat single parent of three in the early 60's raising 3 kids, it was not on her priority list to make sure we understood German. When I was in high school, they offered a class on it, so I took it, but I was not as diligent as I should have been to maintain my skills with it. My two kids know less than I do, but one of my son's is planning to learn it. I have a friend I work with that is from Germany and when we have a conversation, we talk in German, so I can beef up my skills. But it's only slightly better than my Spanish, which is not saying much, as I can pretty much only order food, ask where the bathroom is, and maybe on occasion, order a cerveza.
05-26-23 | 09:09 PM
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Yep, she mentioned that to me and tries to teach me both ways. On occasion I will say something to her, and she looks like me with the WTF look, as I have included both female and male variations of words, not to mention throwing in the wrong pronunciation or grammar structure. Learning the difference in words and in how you address people, meaning if you know them or if they are more of a informal business setting, can be quite different. It's a fascinating language, but my brain really struggles with it sometimes. I honestly like the way the female side of it sounds better. Like German or the Slav based languages, the male side can sound really, heavy, or harsh, although I know those are not good descriptions.
I was somewhat conversational in German growing up as my mothers side of the family came over from Germany in the early 1700's and the language carried forward with each generation. I remember my grand mother only speaking German to my mother and it drove her nuts. We did not live in the same town as my grandmother, so it was not something I got really versed in, and while my mother was fluent, (speaking\writing\reading), she did not force it on us. She never spoke to us in German unless we asked her to or how to say something. Being a somewhat single parent of three in the early 60's raising 3 kids, it was not on her priority list to make sure we understood German. When I was in high school, they offered a class on it, so I took it, but I was not as diligent as I should have been to maintain my skills with it. My two kids know less than I do, but one of my son's is planning to learn it. I have a friend I work with that is from Germany and when we have a conversation, we talk in German, so I can beef up my skills. But it's only slightly better than my Spanish, which is not saying much, as I can pretty much only order food, ask where the bathroom is, and maybe on occasion, order a cerveza.
I was somewhat conversational in German growing up as my mothers side of the family came over from Germany in the early 1700's and the language carried forward with each generation. I remember my grand mother only speaking German to my mother and it drove her nuts. We did not live in the same town as my grandmother, so it was not something I got really versed in, and while my mother was fluent, (speaking\writing\reading), she did not force it on us. She never spoke to us in German unless we asked her to or how to say something. Being a somewhat single parent of three in the early 60's raising 3 kids, it was not on her priority list to make sure we understood German. When I was in high school, they offered a class on it, so I took it, but I was not as diligent as I should have been to maintain my skills with it. My two kids know less than I do, but one of my son's is planning to learn it. I have a friend I work with that is from Germany and when we have a conversation, we talk in German, so I can beef up my skills. But it's only slightly better than my Spanish, which is not saying much, as I can pretty much only order food, ask where the bathroom is, and maybe on occasion, order a cerveza.
As for Spanish, I've picked up a word or two living in north Mexico for the last 25 years, but I resist learning the language so I can do little more than order food and ask who the boss is.
05-26-23 | 10:12 PM
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