That’s part of the long con.

Would be an amusing thread to establish the neediest, most attention seeking BF poster. Maybe we need a poll! :roflmao:

Yes it' all a big conspiracy which has been planned for many years and is finally coming to fruition.:lol:..

What I find really amusing is conspiracy theories against posters.:roflmao:

Ahhh .... so you are saying all these posts abut conspiracy theories against posters are part of a conspiracy? That's one theory ......

Actually I think that's the only use of "cockpit" which makes any sense in cycling. It also suggests the entire bicycle is the cockpit, since in a thorough fit, which may end up in a custom frame design, the entire bicycle can affect how, and how well, the bike is controlled and propelled.

But I come from a background in automotive systems/safety engineering, which has a strong focus on human factors.

Holy carp! This thread is still going? So far as I'm concerned, the question was answered on page one.

The "question" is how long it can keep going before we all realize the conspiracy is real ... and that we are all conspirators

The simpler the question, the longer the thread ...

ALL threads are answered on page one. The rest is just argument, thread drift and the odd repeat of the answer on page one.

When you throw a rock in a pond, the ripples don't stop just because the rock is no longer visible.

Or something.

No it's not.:)

Human Factors and Traffic Design Engineering were my favorite studies. Fascinating blend of engineering and psych/sociology. One of professors work with DOD on F15 aeronautical controls. Great stuff.

Here's a question about cars that I've always wondered. Why don't they all come with split sun visors that can cover the full width of the side window? They all have only one visor, and it isn't long enough to cover the full width of the side window, plus you have to flip it back and forth as the road curves. Super annoying.

Very true.

This will eventually go dormant one day, and about 10 years from now will be resurrected as a zombie thread leaving some moderator to decide if it has ran its course and needs closed.

I love this question, but perhaps not much for BF! But the problem has bugged me since the mid-1970's my first years as a driver. As a high-schooler / beginning University student I was less persnickety than I was later on.

Some cars have built-in solutions, and some are still in the 1950s. On the good side, I had a 1993 VW Passat (with a dumpy shovel-nose!) that had a small sunblock flap on the rear-view mirror post, and same width as the mirror. It just barely overlapped the left and right visors, to effectively prevent the bright sun from shining in at the top of the mirror.

Other cars had an extension visor which could be pulled out when the visor is in its side position and extend the side sun-blocking to cover the full side of the front seat occupants. Another had a second visor for the side, which was tinted plastic (i.e. organic glass). My current Audi A4 has extenders which let me move the entire visor to be slid backwards on its pivot post to cover the driver from side-sunlight. When I was with Visteon (spinoff of Ford Electronics) I helped write a proposal to NHTSA to take on adding a feature to all new vehicles, to improve driver vision capability. But we didn't get very far, unfortunately!

The parallel solution for a cyclist, who can wear such sunglasses while driving the car, is a pair of tinted sunglasses which wrap above and on the side of the eyeball, to block (darken) solar radiation in those irritating ways. I think we need a modular-presription-lens design which can be updated as your eyes age, or perhaps need lens implants.

My F250 has double visors. (If they were removable, they could be used as surfboards.)

The rock keeps sinking .....

Hi, Maelochs! What do you mean, about something sinking?

The rock .......

Made me think of this.

That is a perfect example of modern reasoning ......

on another bicycle forum I belong to there is a "cockpit photos" thread, and they are only of the handlebars.