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Old 02-14-24, 08:25 AM
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If scoring points makes a game great then baseball SUX ! They hardly ever score. And actually it sux for a lot of reasons. It absolutely sets the bar for boooorrrrrrriiiiinnnngggggggg
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
A game with lots of scoring can be exciting even if it ends in a tie (NBA, anyone?)
NBA games don't end in ties. Neither do baseball games.
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Maybe Americans are just more discerning in their sporting tastes?
I kind of doubt that hypothesis 😂
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Originally Posted by smd4

​​​Maybe Americans are just more discerning in their sporting tastes?
The MLB and NFL are clear and compelling arguments disputing that.
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie
The MLB and NFL are clear and compelling arguments disputing that.
MLB is probably too intellectual for a lot of people. I get that. Requires too much thinking for a "sport." This is why keeping score in baseball is pretty much a lost art.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
This is the "Soccer Sux" fallacy ... that game play doesn't matter and only goals are exciting.
Exactly. Anyway it attracts around 3.5 billion viewers Worldwide.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Exactly. Anyway it attracts around 3.5 billion viewers Worldwide.
Like I said...Americans are more discerning.

That Simpsons clip captured it perfectly. Funny no one is arguing with its premises.
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Originally Posted by smd4

Thank you for cricket, though. It provided a great basic starting point to perfect into the greatest game ever invented.

You mean baseball? Even Americans appear to have lost interest in it.
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Like I said...Americans are more discerning.
Yeah, like they are with food 😂
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Yeah, like they are with food 😂
Yes, watercress sandwiches, soused hogs face and mutton are pure culinary delights! DELISH!
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
You mean baseball? Even Americans appear to have lost interest in it.
Wrong again:

The total attendance of 70,747,365 in 2023 was a gain of over 6 million fans from 2022, when total attendance was 64,556,658.
​​​​​​​--MLB.com
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Originally Posted by smd4
MLB is probably too intellectual for a lot of people. I get that. Requires too much thinking for a "sport." This is why keeping score in baseball is pretty much a lost art.
I go back far enough to remember sportscasters like Vin Scully calling out a 6-4-3 double play; for those who keep score.

I never bothered to, but I often wondered what happens to those scorecards after the game. Do people, especially season ticket holders, keep them or are they round filed?

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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
I go back far enough to remember sportscasters like Vin Scully calling out a 6-4-3 double play; for those who keep score.

I never bothered to, but I often wondered what happens to those scorecards after the game. Do people, especially season ticket holders, keep them or are they round filed?
I framed the one where my kid scored an in-the-park HR*; no need to keep them otherwise. Do they even hand scorecards out at MLB games anymore? Our local minor clubs don't.


* Home Run.

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Wrong again:


​​​​​​​--MLB.com
How does that compare with MLS these days?
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
How does that compare with MLS these days?
Why would I care?

Way more people drive Toyotas than Ferraris. What does that tell me about Ferrari drivers? Yep: More discerning.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Why would I care?

Way more people drive Toyotas than Ferraris. What does that tell me about Ferrari drivers? Yep: More discerning.
It tells you that Ferraris are a lot more expensive and less practical for daily driving.

Anyway I looked it up and total MLS attendance is around 10 million, compared to 70 million MLB. By your logic (which seems nonsense btw) soccer fans are considerably more discerning.

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Originally Posted by PeteHski
It tells you that Ferraris are a lot more expensive and less practical for daily driving.
It tells YOU that. I see a driver that simply has a higher level of taste and refinement.
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Originally Posted by smd4
It tells YOU that. I see a driver that simply has a higher level of taste and refinement.
No way, there are loads of clueless Ferrari owners. They just need to have some money to buy one.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Wrong again:
The total attendance of 70,747,365 in 2023 was a gain of over 6 million fans from 2022, when total attendance was 64,556,658.

--MLB.com
Ummmm ... MLB attendance has been on a slow decline for years. The 2023 figure is lower than it was in 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Ummmm ... MLB attendance has been on a slow decline for years. The 2023 figure is lower than it was in 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017.
But now...it's going up!
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But now...it's going up!
It pretty much has to after it cratered during COVID. It doesn't change the long term trend, however.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
It pretty much has to after it cratered during COVID. It doesn't change the long term trend, however.
Not really, since you clearly don't know anything about baseball. It has to do with several recent rule changes.
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Not really, since you clearly don't know anything about baseball. It has to do with several recent rule changes.
If that's true, then maybe they shouldn't have changed the rules, since attendance increased by 19 million the year before the rule changes were put in place, and 6 million after they were put in place.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
If that's true, then maybe they shouldn't have changed the rules, since attendance increased by 19 million the year before the rule changes were put in place, and 6 million after they were put in place.
I'll be sure to let the commissioner know.
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I'll be sure to let the commissioner know.
MLB already knows they have an attendance problem. Why else do you think they're experimenting with rule changes?
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