Calling all men
#101
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But if you say you stand with Ukraine and you do just that...is it still virtue signaling?
If you wore a face ask when it was socially common to, but you did it because you wanted to try and reduce the spread of germs/virus...is that still virtue signaling?
The answer to both is - NO. Neither are virtue signaling if you are doing it because you actually support the issue.
It's used as a pejorative when you think the person is insincere about what they say.
If you wore a face ask when it was socially common to, but you did it because you wanted to try and reduce the spread of germs/virus...is that still virtue signaling?
The answer to both is - NO. Neither are virtue signaling if you are doing it because you actually support the issue.
It's used as a pejorative when you think the person is insincere about what they say.
Talk is cheap. We are the Choir. Law abiding, and (probably) not inclined to treat women with due, but not ridiculous, deference. In 2024 anything more than polite chivalry is as bad as the Victorian excesses at the turn of the Century. And we don't need unsolicited rants about how to treat women in public. You don't decide what is not virtue signaling. The terminology speaks for itself. We are instructed to do our 'good works' in secret. Likewise our reward will be in secret. I'm good with that.
If the o.p. wants to work up a YouTube video or even a seminar where paying customers can benefit from their wisdom as a superior male specimen, they have my best wishes for their success. Bike Forums is not the place for them to try out their material. And those of you lining up on the side of faux feminism should get a clue. What you are displaying is blatant sexism, even if you think it is the opposite.
#103
Yes. Like the earlier "politically correct." New Yorker writer Calvin Trillin remarked back in the '80's that the then-new term was used by people who spouted the same ignorant opinions they'd had all their lives but now wanted credit for bravery.
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#105
Sunshine
Joined: Aug 2014
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From: Des Moines, IA
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Y'all's are in a mighty righteous huff over being called out for overstepping the bounds of minding ones own business. Would the o.p. be so quick to interfere if some 6'4" 260lb brute was beating on his girlfriend in public. No, he might call 911 but he wouldn't go up against someone likely to kill him without breathing hard. But a situation like that is EXACTLY when a real man shows what he is made of. Police response times being what they are, the woman concerned might appreciate a man willing to put his life on the line in the name of courage and valor.
Talk is cheap. We are the Choir. Law abiding, and (probably) not inclined to treat women with due, but not ridiculous, deference. In 2024 anything more than polite chivalry is as bad as the Victorian excesses at the turn of the Century. And we don't need unsolicited rants about how to treat women in public. You don't decide what is not virtue signaling. The terminology speaks for itself. We are instructed to do our 'good works' in secret. Likewise our reward will be in secret. I'm good with that.
If the o.p. wants to work up a YouTube video or even a seminar where paying customers can benefit from their wisdom as a superior male specimen, they have my best wishes for their success. Bike Forums is not the place for them to try out their material. And those of you lining up on the side of faux feminism should get a clue. What you are displaying is blatant sexism, even if you think it is the opposite.
Talk is cheap. We are the Choir. Law abiding, and (probably) not inclined to treat women with due, but not ridiculous, deference. In 2024 anything more than polite chivalry is as bad as the Victorian excesses at the turn of the Century. And we don't need unsolicited rants about how to treat women in public. You don't decide what is not virtue signaling. The terminology speaks for itself. We are instructed to do our 'good works' in secret. Likewise our reward will be in secret. I'm good with that.
If the o.p. wants to work up a YouTube video or even a seminar where paying customers can benefit from their wisdom as a superior male specimen, they have my best wishes for their success. Bike Forums is not the place for them to try out their material. And those of you lining up on the side of faux feminism should get a clue. What you are displaying is blatant sexism, even if you think it is the opposite.
I don't feel called out because I haven't virtue signaled. I also am not up in arms here.
#106
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#107
Sunshine
Joined: Aug 2014
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From: Des Moines, IA
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BF is many things that aren't great, but toxic due to male dominated activity? Nah. It's toxic for many reasons, but that really isn't one that I have seen over the last decade.
You need to be really relxed with the word 'toxic' to claim this place is toxic due simply to having males as the overwhelming gender that posts.
You need to be really relxed with the word 'toxic' to claim this place is toxic due simply to having males as the overwhelming gender that posts.
#108
BF is many things that aren't great, but toxic due to male dominated activity? Nah. It's toxic for many reasons, but that really isn't one that I have seen over the last decade.
You need to be really relxed with the word 'toxic' to claim this place is toxic due simply to having males as the overwhelming gender that posts.
You need to be really relxed with the word 'toxic' to claim this place is toxic due simply to having males as the overwhelming gender that posts.
#109
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
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Some of the car forums are positively brutal and go completely unmoderated. High praise to the mods here that keep a lid on it. They can’t get enough credit.
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#111
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Drive on
As a Soldier I bike for exercise and to get from one place to another. Remain focused on the reason you are biking and don’t let anything interrupt your time. If someone needs help that is different, but focus on form and your cycling goals and the workout will be incredible.





