Ebike virtues
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Ebike virtues
Having owned both a carbon road bike and an ebike, The carbon road bike has a complicated derailleur gear system that needs to be cleaned every hundred miles or so, sometimes less, it also goes out of sync with regularity requiring some form of adjustment, and that adjustment isn't really working well for me because it skips gears. Because the parts of the carbon road bike are optimized for weight they are also kind of fragile and need to be replaced often because of their fragile nature.
The ebike has a belt drive and an IGH. Both are less efficient than a chain system but are gobs of less maintenance. It also can run bigger and less efficient tires for a more comfortable ride. As well, it can take a suspension system too and still maintain speed.
When it runs out of electricity like what happened to me today it is a bear to limp home in.
The ebike has a belt drive and an IGH. Both are less efficient than a chain system but are gobs of less maintenance. It also can run bigger and less efficient tires for a more comfortable ride. As well, it can take a suspension system too and still maintain speed.
When it runs out of electricity like what happened to me today it is a bear to limp home in.
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If you have to clean your derailleur and adjust every 100 miles there is something wrong or you're doing something wrong.
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They make regular bikes with IGH. So you don't have to have the derailleur drive system if you don't care for it. I agree that IGH is more worry free and lasts a long time.
Less weight and range of gearing is the plus for derailleur systems though over IGH. And many of us find them not as finicky as others do. But they can be more trouble for those that don't quite understand them.
Less weight and range of gearing is the plus for derailleur systems though over IGH. And many of us find them not as finicky as others do. But they can be more trouble for those that don't quite understand them.
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But yes more motor helps with hills and it can keep you in an optimal cadence range more where your body is doing optimal levels of exercise.
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I wonder if the administrators of Bike Forums might consider creating a sub-forum wherein the virtues of electric motorcycles bikes might be discussed, rather than here in 'General Cycling'? It could be called something like 'Electric Bikes'.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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I have a ti frame with what was top of the line Shimano mechanical in 2016. I haven’t replaced one part. What group was your carbon bike built with? Let’s see some photos.
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Having owned both a carbon road bike and an ebike, The carbon road bike has a complicated derailleur gear system that needs to be cleaned every hundred miles or so, sometimes less, it also goes out of sync with regularity requiring some form of adjustment, and that adjustment isn't really working well for me because it skips gears. Because the parts of the carbon road bike are optimized for weight they are also kind of fragile and need to be replaced often because of their fragile nature.
The ebike has a belt drive and an IGH. Both are less efficient than a chain system but are gobs of less maintenance. It also can run bigger and less efficient tires for a more comfortable ride. As well, it can take a suspension system too and still maintain speed.
When it runs out of electricity like what happened to me today it is a bear to limp home in.
The ebike has a belt drive and an IGH. Both are less efficient than a chain system but are gobs of less maintenance. It also can run bigger and less efficient tires for a more comfortable ride. As well, it can take a suspension system too and still maintain speed.
When it runs out of electricity like what happened to me today it is a bear to limp home in.
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Getting back to the topic, at the OP if you have to adjust that often you probably have done something wrong or you have some really cheap derailleurs like Tourney level stuff. Yes an IGH and a belt tends to be lower maintenance but a chain and derailleurs aren't exceptionally hard to maintain and you don't have to maintain them that often. As others have likely noted you can get an IGH and belt drive on non-electric bikes.
E-bikes are great and the silliness of people who have to dislike them is getting old. I can understand not liking e-mopeds, the crap that poor quality/not UL listed and actual motorcycles and I can understand someone having ridden a quality one saying it is not for me but those who don't like e-bikes (again no throttles only pedaling moves it forward) just because is just is so tiring.
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Don't be so ashamed about performance issues. Lashing out can be healthy. Drafting a Viagra bike when you're on a manual bike is better than not riding at all.
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The OP was doing okay until s/he said these things:
... and ...
This is all crap. Hating on pedal bikes is no better than hating on e-bikes.
Trying to explain why trucks are better than trains just sounds silly. Comparing ebikes to pedal bikes is the same sort of silliness. They are different things with different designs, and operating methods.
Neither is good or bad ... but the same cannot be said for posters.
The carbon road bike has a complicated derailleur gear system that needs to be cleaned every hundred miles or so, sometimes less, it also goes out of sync with regularity requiring some form of adjustment, and that adjustment isn't really working well for me because it skips gears.
Trying to explain why trucks are better than trains just sounds silly. Comparing ebikes to pedal bikes is the same sort of silliness. They are different things with different designs, and operating methods.
Neither is good or bad ... but the same cannot be said for posters.
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E-bikes, for those that can't perform when 'tis time to strike while the iron is still hot.
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"Acoustic"? Do you tune the spokes and play it like a harp? I've heard a regular bike referred to as analog (makes more sense to me--mechanical watches have been referred to as analog for years). But acoustic? This may be current slang, but makes no sense to me.
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I think 'acoustic' comes from the music performance world.
Remember the 'horrors' of Bob Dylan playing an electric Guitar in 1965 at the Newport Folk Festival:
And the flipside, an 'electric' Guitar player, like Eric Clapton, playing an acoustic Guitar:
Remember the 'horrors' of Bob Dylan playing an electric Guitar in 1965 at the Newport Folk Festival:
And the flipside, an 'electric' Guitar player, like Eric Clapton, playing an acoustic Guitar:
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A pedal harp, not a Celtic harp.
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Or you could just ride an e-bike if that’s what you had in mind. None of your suggested alternatives above are better choices.




Hard not to like more motor.
