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Carbonfiberboy 08-24-25 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by GeezyRider (Post 23592873)
Sometimes, you don't have a choice. If you ever served in the military or played team sports you would know being among naked men is part of life and no big deal.

Where I went to college, only naked people of either sex could enter the pool, obviously on alternate days. One had to shower entering and leaving the pool. Easier to keep the pool clean that way.

Leisesturm 08-24-25 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23593101)
I made it about 20 seconds into the vid before I had to bail, but there's proof there of at least 3 rideshare bikes with the offensive contact.

Just saying, AI therapy is a thing. No one else needs to know. You're not going to tell me you didn't see worse in a locker room full of adolescent Hockey players. You've clearly took the other tine of the fork in the road where the right one led to a healthy attitude towards people. It's never too late to backtrack and find inner peace.

Leisesturm 08-24-25 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jughed (Post 23592740)
As a parent of 3 kids, two girls that were once little…

Hey girls, look, there is the liberty bell. Hey girls, look, there is unexpected sweaty gentlemen sausage.

From the perspective of my girls - they don’t want to see that, ever. Should they have to when touring an historic city?

If a homeless feller whipped out his dong in front of my girls - well, that wouldn’t end well. But a bike ride/parade makes it all OK?

Two valid perspectives.

I hope you aren't planning to be one of those fathers of girls that attempts to keep them for himself. And I DON'T mean in a pedo sense, but a conservative, they never need to experience adult things, ever, sense. I'm pretty sure your girls have (or will) seen worse on the Internet and they handle it better than boys do. I don't doubt they wouldn't go out of their way to see strangers naked, but I am sure they would handle it better than you would. In my city women (men too maybe) can go out and about fully nude. None ever will, but the law is clear. You can. As long as your intent isn't to arouse, have at it. Being that that is a difficult thing to prove on an individual basis, a single woman out sunning herself would be quickly arrested and subjected to a mental evaluation. One thousand naked cyclists could NEVER be construed as them trying to arouse anything except joie de vive, so they get a pass. I live in the city that invented naked bike rides and I am nothing if not a cyclist par excellence, in passion if not in abilities. I've never seen a naked cyclist. Ever. I'm ok with that. Being married means I can see a naked woman pretty much any day of the week. And being an active gym member means I see more naked men than I've ever seen naked women and I'm still alive to talk about it.

Duragrouch 08-24-25 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by I Like To Ride (Post 23592703)
Every city has laws which prohibit public nudity and indecent exposure, I wonder how these people get away with it. The worst part about it is parents and families who bring their kids and allow them to watch and witness all this filth.

Compared to what? Movie and TV shows glorifying war and violence? First person shooter video games? Taunting people with insults while anonymously online?

You sound like the folks who demonized the current and former US servicemembers who attended a (clothed) dragshow in Colorado springs with their families (who were all having fun), and when a mass shooter entered and started killing many, charged the shooter and disarmed him. Yet many condemned them for being there in the first place.

I'd recommend stepping back and getting some perspective on life.

Arbitrarily labeling something as wrong or "filthy", without examination, defies logic. Rock and roll was labeled like that in the beginning, by "moral leaders" who demeaned it in hateful terms as music for blacks, and the work of satan. From wiki on James Watt, secretary of the interior under Reagan:

Beach Boys concert

From 1980 through 1982, The Beach Boys and The Grass Roots separately performed at Independence Day concerts at the National Mall in Washington, D.C., attracting large crowds.[19][20][21] In April 1983, Watt banned the concerts, asserting that "rock bands" who had performed on the Mall on Independence Day in 1981 and 1982 had encouraged drug use and alcoholism and had attracted "the wrong element", who would subsequently rob attendees of similar events.[20] Watt then announced that Las Vegas singer Wayne Newton, a friend and an endorser of President Reagan and a contributor to the Republican Party, would perform at the Independence Day celebration at the mall in 1983.[20][22] During the ensuing controversy, Rob Grill, lead singer of The Grass Roots, stated that he felt "highly insulted" by Watt's remarks, which he termed "nothing but un-American."[20]

The Beach Boys stated that the Soviet Union, which had invited them to perform in Leningrad in 1978, "obviously ... did not feel the group attracted the wrong element."[20] Vice President George H. W. Bush said of The Beach Boys, "They're my friends, and I like their music."[20] Watt apologized to The Beach Boys after learning that President Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan were fans of the band.[23] Nancy Reagan apologized for Watt.[24] The White House staff gave Watt a plaster foot with a hole for his "having shot himself in the foot".[25]
Yeah.

79pmooney 08-24-25 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by I Like To Ride (Post 23592703)
Every city has laws which prohibit public nudity and indecent exposure, ...

Not true everywhere. In Portland, public nudity is legal. For both city and state. Public obscenity is illegal, but not simply going about without clothes.

mstateglfr 08-24-25 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by GeezyRider (Post 23592873)
Sometimes, you don't have a choice. If you ever served in the military or played team sports you would know being among naked men is part of life and no big deal.

OK, but this isn't one such example where it is unavoidable. So providing an example of it being unavoidable is meaningless.

mstateglfr 08-24-25 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Leisesturm (Post 23593246)
I hope you aren't planning to be one of those fathers of girls that attempts to keep them for himself. And I DON'T mean in a pedo sense, but a conservative, they never need to experience adult things, ever, sense. I'm pretty sure your girls have (or will) seen worse on the Internet and they handle it better than boys do. I don't doubt they wouldn't go out of their way to see strangers naked, but I am sure they would handle it better than you would. In my city women (men too maybe) can go out and about fully nude. None ever will, but the law is clear. You can. As long as your intent isn't to arouse, have at it. Being that that is a difficult thing to prove on an individual basis, a single woman out sunning herself would be quickly arrested and subjected to a mental evaluation. One thousand naked cyclists could NEVER be construed as them trying to arouse anything except joie de vive, so they get a pass. I live in the city that invented naked bike rides and I am nothing if not a cyclist par excellence, in passion if not in abilities. I've never seen a naked cyclist. Ever. I'm ok with that. Being married means I can see a naked woman pretty much any day of the week. And being an active gym member means I see more naked men than I've ever seen naked women and I'm still alive to talk about it.

It's been interesting to read all the responses which boil down to 'you are wrong and it is unreasonable to expect that your daughters shouldnt have to see a ton of naked people in public'.
Just a straight dismissal of the posyer's concerns.

My girls are well aware of anatomy- human and non-human- but I would be annoyed if we were touristing up historical sites and were met by a hundred or more naked people on bikes. And that's them at 18 and 14 now.yeah, it would be annoying because what else would it possibly be? We obviously wouldn't be like 'yeah! Cool!'.
If they were 11 and 7, I would be annoyed enough to mention it as a complaint when recapping the trip to family.


Your response was funny enough to motivate me to respond because it claims that since the poster's daughters will someday see worse on the internet, it is unreasonable for him to take issue now.
And it also passively accuses the poster of being someone who thinks he can forever keep his kids from seeing nudity...just because he wouldn't want them to have to see hundreds of naked people in public now.

That all is so absurd it is difficult to even take it as a serious comment.

SurferRosa 08-24-25 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 23593253)
In Portland, public nudity is legal. For both city and state.

Google says both intent and specific location are criteria for legal nudity in Oregon.

Duragrouch 08-24-25 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 23593258)
It's been interesting to read all the responses which boil down to 'you are wrong and it is unreasonable to expect that your daughters shouldnt have to see a ton of naked people in public'.
Just a straight dismissal of the posyer's concerns.

My girls are well aware of anatomy- human and non-human- but I would be annoyed if we were touristing up historical sites and were met by a hundred or more naked people on bikes. And that's them at 18 and 14 now.yeah, it would be annoying because what else would it possibly be? We obviously wouldn't be like 'yeah! Cool!'.
If they were 11 and 7, I would be annoyed enough to mention it as a complaint when recapping the trip to family.


Your response was funny enough to motivate me to respond because it claims that since the poster's daughters will someday see worse on the internet, it is unreasonable for him to take issue now.
And it also passively accuses the poster of being someone who thinks he can forever keep his kids from seeing nudity...just because he wouldn't want them to have to see hundreds of naked people in public now.

That all is so absurd it is difficult to even take it as a serious comment.

The subject of nude bike parades, do not happen at random times in random places. They are scheduled and known way in advance, and spectators know what to expect, and can be easily avoided by those who wish to. Like NRA annual meetings and conventions (I'm a life member in protest).

Jughed 08-25-25 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 23593258)
It's been interesting to read all the responses which boil down to 'you are wrong and it is unreasonable to expect that your daughters shouldnt have to see a ton of naked people in public'.
Just a straight dismissal of the posyer's concerns.

My girls are well aware of anatomy- human and non-human- but I would be annoyed if we were touristing up historical sites and were met by a hundred or more naked people on bikes. And that's them at 18 and 14 now.yeah, it would be annoying because what else would it possibly be? We obviously wouldn't be like 'yeah! Cool!'.
If they were 11 and 7, I would be annoyed enough to mention it as a complaint when recapping the trip to family.


Your response was funny enough to motivate me to respond because it claims that since the poster's daughters will someday see worse on the internet, it is unreasonable for him to take issue now.
And it also passively accuses the poster of being someone who thinks he can forever keep his kids from seeing nudity...just because he wouldn't want them to have to see hundreds of naked people in public now.

That all is so absurd it is difficult to even take it as a serious comment.

Exactly.

I'm simply posting a counter argument because some of the early counter arguments in this thread were dismissed.

And what I'm saying is a flat specific example of how some people just flat out don't want to see this. And situationally - the location of this event is going to bring the two worlds together.

But its common to attack the messenger vs discussing the message. Attempting to expand the argument into realms unknown - like parenting style or something similar - just to somehow dismiss the message.

And for what its worth - his entire speculative post was completely wrong.

indyfabz 08-25-25 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Duragrouch (Post 23593270)
The subject of nude bike parades, do not happen at random times in random places. They are scheduled and known way in advance, and spectators know what to expect, and can be easily avoided by those who wish to. Like NRA annual meetings and conventions (I'm a life member in protest).

Yep. It was all over the news pre-event. And it’s not like the city passed an ordinance requiring parents to force children to watch for 10 min. as a couple thousand people slowly rolled by.

Want to “sanitize” your living environment? Move to a cabin to the forest.

MikeDeason 08-25-25 04:49 AM

Why are participants almost all male and to put it delicately, obviously not athletic.

Are these events hook ups ?



indyfabz 08-25-25 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 23592984)
Maple syrup FTW.

I think we did that sometimes, too, only we had Log Cabin. My mom was the sort of person who would rarely try anything different once she found something she liked. I remember begging her to buy a Hamburger Helper flavor other than Beef Stroganoff.

Reflector Guy 08-25-25 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23593145)

Is this whole thing a hook up for those of a certain orientation

And so if it is, so what? It's nice to have a common interest.

mstateglfr 08-25-25 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Duragrouch (Post 23593270)
The subject of nude bike parades, do not happen at random times in random places. They are scheduled and known way in advance, and spectators know what to expect, and can be easily avoided by those who wish to. Like NRA annual meetings and conventions (I'm a life member in protest).

The scenario I commented on was out of town visitors who are there to see historical sites. Expecting tourists to know about when a nude bike parade will slowly roll past popular historic landmarks is unreasonable.
But yeah, I agree that in general it is relatively easy to avoid a nude bike parade. The odds are highly in everyone's favor that they wont happen to be on the route during a given moment in time.

mstateglfr 08-25-25 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23593306)
Why are participants almost all male and to put it delicately, obviously not athletic.

All the athletic people are at the local park participating in a nude rope climb.


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23593306)
Are these events hook ups ?

I wouldnt think twice if I heard some people hooked up afterwards. I wouldnt think twice if it was a very small % who hooked up afterwards.
I give 0 damn either way. Adults get to make adult decisions.

StanSeven 08-25-25 07:34 AM

This thread has gotten way off track. Time to end it.


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