Loving the Phenom Mirror on my fitness bike and looking to upgrade the saddles on 2 other bikes I use less: the rainy-day bike and the hotel overnighter bike. I would prefer not to drop the $$$ on 2 more Mirrors on bikes I rarely use. Looking for the closest match, straight Phenoms/no Mirror or China 3D's ?

I really like a saddle so should I get the saddle I really like or do something stupid and not get the saddle I like?

Sure, but there's also 1k CAD you need to throw into the mix.

If you have to leave the bike at the shop to get the saddle installed, I vote no. You'll have no place to put your helmet.

No, they did it while I waited.

Another lost sale for shop that wouldn’t hold helmet.

You paid how much for a saddle?!!!! For that price, it should have antigrav capabilities! For that price, it should do far more than just support you while you ride! And you want to drop that much for 2 more?!!!!

I’m not averse to paying money for bike stuff…even unreasonable amounts…but not ridiculous amounts of money!

You must be new around here. The OP makes up “stuff”. (The censor won’t allow me to use the fitting term.)

Here’s the imaginary saddle installed

$400 saddle and Rockbros pedals, very on brand.

Here are some options for a better saddle for you.





And the Manta https://mantasaddle.co.uk

I’ve tried more expensive flats. No benefit. Not Mntn biking The most I’ll pay is around $100 for Shimano

Well if that's the saddle you must have, are your other choices also ok?
My comment on cost, are there no other options which do the same thing? Is the cost in some fashion warranted because it's the 'Only One' ?
I;ve used the 'Phenom' saddle type for well over a dozen years and found them to be great, for me. But they are not the Only Ones...
The Phenoms are reliably always great... for me.
I do have other saddles and some chinese, which surprisingly are also quite good and not 'cheap' construction...
If you don;t want to spend the cost of another, why not consider options... like a lower level version, like the comp.
I would go to a Specialized shop and see if they would allow a saddle test... ?
Most shops around here do that...
It's been many, many decades that I've not worried about what others may think about what I ride.
I do observe, consider then think of the impact it might have for me... quite freeing.
I do recommend observing (reading, theying, whatever brings consideration), considering and then deciding.
It may not work out as planned, but it does bring peace of mind.

Ride On
Yuri

EDIT: Given all the posts you've made which talk about issues on expensive new stuff, which now have significant problems you've not been able to foresee; you're obviously not averse to 'experimenting'?
If that's fun, why change?

Yes. Phenom/no Mirror probably safest try.

You had to start a thread to reach such an obvious conclusion? Seriously, how do you make it through the day?

Not that obvious. Is it the Mirror or is it the shape
Spesh store guy says the Mirror tips the balance for most customers but they’re selling the saddle.

Here’s my pet lizard.

It's really odd that people claim the OP doesn't own bikes or gear he claims to own. It's all been verified a bunch of times.
He trolls and he posts absurd stuff to generate engagement, but he clearly owns the bikes and gear he claims to own.

The shop where I got the Mirror (and will hold my helmet when bike is in for overnight repair) is going to "let" me use a Phenom Pro (no Mirror) on my other bike for a few days. If it doesn't work out, Spesh has a 30-day comfort guarantee. Originally, they were going to charge a restocking fee, but for whatever reason are now telling me about the "comfort guarantee".

There have been enough contradictions in his posts to lead one to believe he only owns about half of what he claims.

I will admit, my Superbike adventure was a fiasco due to the IC. The IC and I will just never gel. Fortunately my dealer(who will hold a helmet overnight) took mercy and offered full value towards the upcoming Roubaix SL9 SWs. There is unlikely to be a traditional IC on that bike due to limitations imposed by Future Shock.

i wouldn't be so sure about that, there's zero reason you can't have an IC with future shock. what you can't have is internal cable routing with future shock. many roval ICs were made for external cable routing and worked very well with roubaixs and creos, which are the only drop bar bikes ever made with future shock. time will tell, but like the aethos 2 the SW trim may come with an IC and the comp certainly won't, in between, who knows.

I am hopeful that it will be more customizable and cheaper to swap out components. The FS will at least guarantee a higher stack. Hopefully market analysis leads them to the conclusion that people buying Roubaix’s likely don’t want a silly slammed bike

i suspect the last sentence is true. but there is no correlation between ICs and slammed bikes, or not. they have spacers and steering tubes that come long and can be cut just like other bikes, it just takes more planning to get it right, as you note.

Verified by whom?

Years ago there was a frequent poster in Touring who pilfered photos from the Interwebs and passed them off as his own. Amazingly, that was probably the least of his transgressions.

There were four raccoons on my deck that verified it also.