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#51
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Annually I buy a can of Silicone Spray for $2 and a new chain for $5, and never get dirty hands.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
#52
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Originally Posted by kf5nd
Helmet Head suggested motor oil, because he wants to always think that he's a motor car.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
#54
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From: Point Loma, CA
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
Personally I prefer antifreze to lube my chain.
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#55
Originally Posted by slowandsteady
I would like to thank the person(s) who recommended using motor oil as a chain lubricant.
First of all, I would like to thank you for the mediocre lubrication it provided.
Secondly I would like to thank you for the massive amounts of dirt, grime, grit, scum, swill, and funk that appeared on my chain within a week and began to take over my life by week two.
Thirdly, I would like to thank you for the semi-permanent and reapplied daily chain tatoo on my right calf.
Fourthly, I would like to thank you for the copious amounts of black splatter on my nice new rims.
Finally, I would like to thank you for the fumes that permeate my house as I had to use car engine cleaner to remove said funk from my chain.
I was a fool to stray from KryTech dry wax lubricants. Motor oil should stay in motors.
First of all, I would like to thank you for the mediocre lubrication it provided.
Secondly I would like to thank you for the massive amounts of dirt, grime, grit, scum, swill, and funk that appeared on my chain within a week and began to take over my life by week two.
Thirdly, I would like to thank you for the semi-permanent and reapplied daily chain tatoo on my right calf.
Fourthly, I would like to thank you for the copious amounts of black splatter on my nice new rims.
Finally, I would like to thank you for the fumes that permeate my house as I had to use car engine cleaner to remove said funk from my chain.
I was a fool to stray from KryTech dry wax lubricants. Motor oil should stay in motors.
OH MY ! You got the rims dirty on your bike!... Horrors...
#56
Originally Posted by spinnaker
Some guy on the internet told me that I could cure my headache by plunging an ice pick into both eyes. I did it, now I have blood all over the floor, I am bind in both eyes and my head hurts worse than ever! Thanks guy on the internet.
#57
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From: VT
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If you search bikeforums on "motor oil" there are a lot of threads discussing its use as a chain lube, and in those threads nobody reacts to it with the horror that some of you guys are right now.Personally, I can say that I went to a shop three weeks ago and asked for a lube- I got Pedro's Ice Wax at the salesperson's recommendation and it only took me a day or two to realize that it was the totally wrong kind of lube for the riding I do and the frequency with which I am willing to lube my chain (every friggin ride? give me a break!)
After reading up on it some more I just decided to wipe off the ass wax and try some synthetic motor oil I had in the trunk of my car- WOW, it worked! It did not get my rims dirty. Yeah, I got a chainring tattoo, but I don't give a crap about that. I would guess that you used way too much on your chain and didn't wipe off the excess. Yeah, it collects dirt, but only when I'm doing some seriously dirty riding and I would normally have to clean off the chain anyway.
The 3/1 mineral spirit/motor oil thing sounds interesting. I might try that out next time. One things for sure, the motor oil is a helluva lot better than the "specialized bicycle wax lube" the LBS sold me which lasts about 25 miles. So don't knock the homebrew!
After reading up on it some more I just decided to wipe off the ass wax and try some synthetic motor oil I had in the trunk of my car- WOW, it worked! It did not get my rims dirty. Yeah, I got a chainring tattoo, but I don't give a crap about that. I would guess that you used way too much on your chain and didn't wipe off the excess. Yeah, it collects dirt, but only when I'm doing some seriously dirty riding and I would normally have to clean off the chain anyway.
The 3/1 mineral spirit/motor oil thing sounds interesting. I might try that out next time. One things for sure, the motor oil is a helluva lot better than the "specialized bicycle wax lube" the LBS sold me which lasts about 25 miles. So don't knock the homebrew!
#59
Originally Posted by grolby
Ever try to slow down when your braking surface has a nice splattering of oil or other lubricant? Not fun.
#60
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Originally Posted by grolby
Ever try to slow down when your braking surface has a nice splattering of oil or other lubricant? Not fun.
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Originally Posted by maximusvt
If you search bikeforums on "motor oil" there are a lot of threads discussing its use as a chain lube, and in those threads nobody reacts to it with the horror that some of you guys are right now.
#64
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Originally Posted by wagathon
Brutal. Maybe take this rant to P&R where some rich, commie ***** paws the earth with her hoof to educate us on the mathematics of oil economicss or get a more sympathetic ear by blaming all of this on Bush or Zionists. 

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#66
Dirt on the outside of your chain might be unsightly, but it makes no difference. It's what's inside and between the chain rollers and plates that's important. I don't use motor oil, but I also don't worry about the normal dirt that accumulates on my chain. It may not be aesthetic or cosmetic, but it makes no difference in the performance or longevity of your chain.
#67
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
why? works great!
Gasoline may clean well but it is highly volatile & easily forms an explosive mixture with air. I personally saw the results of a kid cleaning motorcycle parts with gasoline in his apartment: Static discharge or a spark from some switch ignited the mix in his room, killing him & starting a sizeable blaze. Cleaning parts with gasoline just isn't worth the risk when there are safer solvents available Don.
#68
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No one advocated doing it indoors. That's not bright. Darwinian maybe, but not bright.
Why has no one mentioned the amount of lubricant used? You don't pour it on. Measure it out with an eyedropper. Literally 2-3 drops (maybe more if the chain is really dry). Motor oil isn't great, but it doesn't have to make a mess, either.
Why has no one mentioned the amount of lubricant used? You don't pour it on. Measure it out with an eyedropper. Literally 2-3 drops (maybe more if the chain is really dry). Motor oil isn't great, but it doesn't have to make a mess, either.
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#70
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Wax based lube.
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.
I know everything.. this is the only correct answer
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.
I know everything.. this is the only correct answer
#71
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Originally Posted by MyPC8MyBrain
Wax based lube.
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.
I know everything.. this is the only correct answer
Lubes great, and no goopy gunky black stuff builds up on the chain.
I know everything.. this is the only correct answer

#73
WD-40 is a really good cleaner, RobCat. I've used it on all kinds of babbit bearings while working in the power plant. Like someone else said about the lube oil, though, fine if you're using gallons.
Actually, I do clean the chain with a toothbrush and solvent. The solvent is intended as the final prep before automotive painting. It doesn't seem to damage anything but grease, and evaporates slowly enough that it cleans and runs off, instead of evaporating in place. Electrical contact cleaner is probably even safer.
Now, of course, you are going to test any solvent before getting it on paint or plastic parts, right?
Actually, I do clean the chain with a toothbrush and solvent. The solvent is intended as the final prep before automotive painting. It doesn't seem to damage anything but grease, and evaporates slowly enough that it cleans and runs off, instead of evaporating in place. Electrical contact cleaner is probably even safer.
Now, of course, you are going to test any solvent before getting it on paint or plastic parts, right?
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#74
This thread has become quite entertaining. I guess the "best" chain lube really depends on the rider and riding conditions.
I'm still using 90wt gear oil and loving every minute of it. My 2nd choice would be Finish Line Cross Country, which is a wet, oil type lubricant.
I'm still using 90wt gear oil and loving every minute of it. My 2nd choice would be Finish Line Cross Country, which is a wet, oil type lubricant.





