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Old 05-03-03, 07:28 PM
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Seinfeld?

Remember the show Seinfeld, he always had a mountain bike in the hallway of his apartment. What bike was that?
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I've been quite lucky to have missed every single espisode of that particular show, including all the syndicated stuff. I've been told that it's a show about nothing so I don't feel I missed anything.
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I don't know what bike it was but I know it was there because he rides. Just saw a pic of him in one of the grocery store rags in full cycle gear riding his road bike around central park.
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Here it is!

Appearently, Micheal Richards (Kramer) is a cycling enthusiast and it was on his suggestion that the bike be hung in a visable spot.
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Hmmmm... can you make the picture a little bigger?

I heard that they changed the bike brand that was hanging on the wall after a few seasons, though. Is that true?

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Here he is on the cover of Bicycle Guide Oct. 93!

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Old 05-03-03, 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Koffee Brown

I heard that they changed the bike brand that was hanging on the wall after a few seasons, though. Is that true?
Someone told me the same thing a while back. I've also been told that early episodes had the fork mounted backwards.
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I think the first few episodes had a Cannondale, then for some reason they switched to a Klein.

Seinfeld was (is) my all time favorite TV sitcom.
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I happened to catch a show the other day and jerry and george were out on the street and they walked by a bike shop with a specialized sign in the window and a few bikes. couldnt tell what they were though
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It is true that they changed the brand of bike that was on the wall. There were a total of two that I remember, each a different color. No explanation in the plot as to why they switched. On bike was a Cannondale, and one was a Klein. Both were mountain bikes.
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Only once in that entire show has the bike moved as far as I know (in the Apology)

Melissa, [wheeling out Jerry's bicycle]: "OK, Jerry. I fixed that bike."
Jerry: "Oh. That wasn't really necessary. I don't ride it. It's just for
show."
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I never knew that about Michael Richards (Kramer) that he was big on cycling. How serious is he? He must be pretty well into it if he' s on the cover of that magazine.
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O.K., you asked for it! I scanned the full text.

Michael Richards, who has catapulted into cult-heto status playing the single-named, manically idiosyncratic, scene-stealing "Kramer" on the hit NBC comedy Seinfeld, didn't really want to talk about his gravity-defying hair (which he'd just cut short, anyway) or about the showstopping, door-flinging powerslide he does into Jerry's apartment each episode. After all, everywhere you look now, someone is probing and dissecting the life history and psyche of the 43-year-old LA. native, a lifelong specia]ist in playing wacky eccenuics who was previously known for his soundeffects-laden comedy club routines and a few tales on film (Problem Child, Young Doctors in Lovel and series television (ABC's 1980-82 Fridays and 1987's syndicated Marblehead Manor).

We know from People magazine that his best friend Ed Begley Jr. ([he doctor on the old SI. Elsewhere, who met Richa[ds back in the '60s in rheatre class at Valley College) calls him "barking mad." USA Today got Richards to reveal the method to his onscreen madness: "There's a difference between saying something funny or doing something funny. I prefer being funny." Us got him to explore the mysteries of his hairraising coiffure: "Let it grow for three or four years without doing anything to it, and you'll find that it grows in a verydistinc[ way." Rolling Stone had a reporter hang out at Richards' being-remodeled Studio City home in LA.'s San Fernando Valley for one entire week [0 do a June cover story, and even had a photographer follow him to LA. and New York to shoot a single picture of him, clad in a suit, crossing the street carrying a clear Plexiglas briefcase filled with live goldfish. So it was quite understandable that Richards wouldn't seem all that interested in rehashing old news, like whether or not he'll leave to do a widely rumored Kramer spin-off ("I'm not stupid. I wouldn't leave Seinfeld for anything." -USA Today).

What he did want to talk about was a passion of his that has been largely unexplored by the media, a passion that helped shape his childhood and feed his insatiable curiosiry and creativity. It's a passion, renewed as an adult, that was apparent the second he opened his front door, and, without hesitation or being questioned, began talking enthusiastically about bikes. "I'm the reason thar thar green bike is on the Seinfeld set in the first place-not the set director, like you wrote," he groused good-naturedly about tbe ptoduct placement story in July's INSIDE SPIN. "She wanted to put a bookcase there. I said, 'Put a bike there-and make it a Klein.' Klein owes me-big-[ime! "That's why it ticks me off that Klein sent Jerry [Seinfeld] the Adroit-not me. He doesn't even ride it - because he doesn't want to get it dirty. He's a clean freak, and he only does yoga.

"And by the way, the bike on the setwith the fork backwards, like your readers noticed in the article-is a Rascal, not an Adroit."

Richards noticed because he owns a Rascal-and basically rides the hell out of it: a daily commute to the studio and a 2,OOO-foot climb nearly every afternoon up to neatby Cold water Canyon Park in [he Hollywood Hills behind his home. The bike itself is no mere off-the-rack special, either, but a $1,700 custom job that he built himself. The jet-black, 22-inch Rascal (Richards is 6-foot-21 was out back leaning against the wall, having just been recovered from some bushes down the street where a thief had deposited it three weeks earlier.

Richards stroked it like a loving parent, which he is. He picked up the used frame two years ago for $400, added on [he Deore XT components from the Bridgestone MB-2 he started mountain biking on a year earlier, then was swept up in the tricked-out, upgrade-mania afflicting cyclists evetywhere: Bullseye front hub, titanium bottom bracket, Mavic headset, Ritchey seal post, Onza bar-ends and Panaracer Smokes ("great for climbing"). He painted [he bike black and even sent away for the appropriate "Rascal" and "Klein" decals. "It's 24 pounds," he said. "It kicks ass uphilL" Climbing and [he endurance it builds are wbat Richards loves. When be needs a break from his normal neighborhood climb, he heads out to Bulldog Run in the Santa Monica Mountains, a six-mile ascent he accomplishes "without slopping," he says proudly. Descending is another story, however. A bad spill on Mammoth Mountain's fabled Kamikaze downhill in the summer of 1991 and a near-fatal 40-foot plunge off a cliff soon after (he landed in a tree) cured him forever of the desire for Rock Shox. "I don'[ want to go that fast downhill," he explains. "I've worked too hard on this career to risk it on the downhill."

In the Beginning

Before the career, which began in the classroom (he was voted Most Humorous his senior year at Thousand Oaks High School), there were the bikes. First, the toobig, 24-inch-wheeled, nameless, single-speed Christmas present from his widowed mom when he was seven, which he learned [0 ride in two days. Then, at II, the $40 black 3speed Schwinn paperboy "hog" bike with the whitewalled tires and spring front suspension ("It was cool-like a Harley-Davidson, "he recalls with satisfaction); he was to cry over that bike on a two-mile walk home one day, when it was stolen while he and his ftiends wete at the movies. And finally, fout months latet, came the Royce Union 27-inch-wheeled, I5-speed superbike ("I blew everybody away on hills with that extra low gear") that was mothballed when he began driving in high school.

From the start, bikes were more than mere transportarion for Richards. "That magic, that moment when you are first on two wheels it's like coming face to face with God," he whispers dramatically. If that sounds a little corny, consider that Richards grew up a latchkey kid and "well-connected loner" who moved with his working mother several rimes in his childhood after his father died. His bike, in essence, became his best friend and vehicle of discovery. From his home in Culvet Ciry, the nomadic seven-year-old rode the 24-incher all over the steep Baldwin Hills; he rode eight miles to and from Venice Beach, a then astounding distance. After moving to Van Nuys, he got his friends in trouble by leading them on his all-day, mega-mile expeditions in the Valley. The Royce Union took him even farther afield. "I was into riding distances because I liked to bring back my experiences and tell all the other kids so we could ride out there late~" he remembers. "So a lot of parents didn't like me. I explored everything and tode everywhete."

By the end of ninth grade, howeve~ "bikes weren't happening-cars were." And things stayed that way unril four years ago, when his buddy Begley forced him to ride a folding bike with him up to Coldwater Canyon Park, where he rides today.

"Ed said, 'You ride so well-you ought to get a bike,'" recalls the born-again bicyclist. So within weeks, he'd bought his Bridgestone MB-2, began riding after work with younger guys on the Seinfeld crew and training for the Kamikaze. When his car was stolen, he began commuting to the set daily.

The next cycling goal for the divorced father of one girl (a college freshman) is to pick up a bike for his girlfriend, aerress Ann Talman, whom he met during her guest appearance as a girlfriend of George, Seinfeld's best friend on the show. Klein could help out there, he hinted, mentioning off-handedly that Cannondale has called the set several times offering to replace the ignored but now-legendary green Rascal.

Richards was intrigued by tbe notion, raised by a few BG letter-writers, of having a Seinfeld script focus on the dusty bike. "A big problem is exteriors-we don't do much of them," he said. Then he got a far-away look in his eyes and smiled. "Kramer on a bike," he said. "Think of the possibilities."

By the end of the day ("the longest time I've ever spent at one photo shoot," he noted) there was one vexing, non-bike question which begged to be asked. Michael Richards proved from the very first to be warm, personable, gracious and simply a very nice, un-Hollywoodish guy. Maybe that's because, as his publicist said, he didn't become a star until he was nearly 40. Still, how could this thoroughly calm, so seemingly normal fellow be so different from his character, the hypergesturing, spasmodically head-nodding, on-the-verge-of-exploding Kramer?

"Well, " he said, eyebrows arching Krameresquely, "that's why they call it acting."
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Originally posted by Spire
Only once in that entire show has the bike moved as far as I know (in the Apology)

Melissa, [wheeling out Jerry's bicycle]: "OK, Jerry. I fixed that bike."
Jerry: "Oh. That wasn't really necessary. I don't ride it. It's just for
show."


Also in episode 173 - the bookstore. In the intro scene where kramer does all that stuff to jerry's place, he rides the green klein bike around the apartment.
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Wow, thanks for the article. I wondered there for a minute when I saw the first picture Closetbiker posted. This clears it all up for us!

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I just wish the scanning programs would recognize all the letters so I wouldn't have to check the text after scanning!
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that's really cool.... does anyone know of any other celebrity cycling enthusiasts (other than celebrities who are famous for their cycling of course)
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Originally posted by deliriou5
that's really cool.... does anyone know of any other celebrity cycling enthusiasts (other than celebrities who are famous for their cycling of course)
Mountain biking musicians:

-Tim Bob of Rage Against the Machine (mentions XTR in the liner notes of one album)
-Duff McKagan, One of the ex-Guns-N-Roses guys
-Jesus Jones
-John Squire (Stone Roses)
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Robin Williams the comedian.

One of the guys from Megadeth is into MTB.
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Within the past year there was a Klein mountain bike on E-Bay that was supposedly given to Seinfeld as a gift from Klein when the show went off the air. Did anybody else see this?
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Originally posted by deliriou5
that's really cool.... does anyone know of any other celebrity cycling enthusiasts (other than celebrities who are famous for their cycling of course)
Well he may only be a "celebrity" to us Drag Racing fans but NHRA Funny Car driver Whit Bazemore is a big time bike enthusiast. There is a really good article about him right here.... http://www.nhra.com/2003/news/april/040901.html I love this quote from the article... "I ride a custom Seven mountain bike, two Seven road bikes, as well as a carbon Colnago, and then a Bianchi track bike. I'm a total bike snob. I love high-tech equipment."

Seems funny that a guy that makes a living going 300MPH would be so into cycling. I'm the same way though I don't go quite that fast.

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