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Old 02-28-08, 03:21 PM
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Yes, you did, but you never mentioned the outside diameter of that bar. I have to assume it is has the OD of a flat bar or they have a different grip shifter. I have no idea since I can't read that language. That also means I couldn't buy that bar. I have the bars that I like and don't want to change them. Especially since it looks like you could only have the grip shifter on the right side of the bar clamp, I'd need a different type of shifter on the lefts side. But if I could find a shifter for internally geared hubs, I would consider one. Though, grip shifters are not my first choice of shifters.

I would much rather have down tube, bar end or some STI type of shifter.
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Originally Posted by SweetLou
Yes, you did, but you never mentioned the outside diameter of that bar. I have to assume it is has the OD of a flat bar or they have a different grip shifter. I have no idea since I can't read that language. That also means I couldn't buy that bar. I have the bars that I like and don't want to change them. Especially since it looks like you could only have the grip shifter on the right side of the bar clamp, I'd need a different type of shifter on the lefts side. But if I could find a shifter for internally geared hubs, I would consider one. Though, grip shifters are not my first choice of shifters.

I would much rather have down tube, bar end or some STI type of shifter.
fair enough - have you tried contacting Noell fahrradbau for the exact dimensions and diameters?
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No, I have no idea what that site says since I can't read it. I wouldn't even know what to ask them.

Any way, right now I am building a touring bike. I won't need to ask about an internal geared hub for some time. I am thinking my next bike will be an internal geared hub bike. But I am keeping an eye out for options.
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Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan
Is there such a thing as a dropped bar bicycle with a 7, 8, or 9 speed internal geared rear hub? I know the shifters that many internal gear hubs use are not really compatable with dropped bars but I feel certain I'm not the only one who thinks that an internal hub could add the lower maintainance of a single speed with the hill-climbing advantages of multiple gears.
♣ If such a bike exists in nature can someone point me in the correct direction to find one.
♣ If such a bike does not currently exist, are there reasons (other than incompatability of the shifters on the handlebars) that I'm missing?

Thanks!
Check out some of the bikes on this thread.
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Originally Posted by markhr
Sorry I don't know those bars you refer to on the SJS site. Do you have a picture saved?

Please explain why you feel the cable routing would be a problem? The brake cable on the same side as the twist shifter could be routed in almost any direction surely?
I only had the webpage saved. I guess sjs quit selling them. I had no luck finding them elsewhere. All the info was in good ole english so it was easy for us none multilanguage speakers to understand.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/unknown.asp?pf_id=11348 The bars were mtb diameter, split in the middle, and a twist or rapidfire shifter would slip right on. They were expensive. About $100 usd, plus shipping across the pond.

If the shifter was mounted up on top it would be pretty close to where your bartape wrap stopped. If the brake cable was routed under the tape it would have to make a sharp bend around and over the shifter. When you grasped the twist shifter, I think you would be grabbing the brake cable also. If the bars were grooved the brake cable might be able to be routed under the shifter and be out of the way. The bars on sjs were not grooved.

I'll look a bit more at the links you provided and see if I can google translate them enough So I can understand them.
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Originally Posted by SweetLou
Yes, you did, but you never mentioned the outside diameter of that bar. I have to assume it is has the OD of a flat bar or they have a different grip shifter. I have no idea since I can't read that language. That also means I couldn't buy that bar. I have the bars that I like and don't want to change them. Especially since it looks like you could only have the grip shifter on the right side of the bar clamp, I'd need a different type of shifter on the lefts side. But if I could find a shifter for internally geared hubs, I would consider one. Though, grip shifters are not my first choice of shifters.

I would much rather have down tube, bar end or some STI type of shifter.
With the jtek travel agent you will be able to use bar end, sti, or downtube. If he has them ready.
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Donnamb, maybe I'm missing something but the only bikes I saw in that thread with drop bars used the Hubbub adapter.
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Originally Posted by carlton
With the jtek travel agent you will be able to use bar end, sti, or downtube. If he has them ready.
I Hope so, I went to the site and didn't see any news about them. But that would be great, I would probably set them up with bar end shifters.
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Originally Posted by SweetLou
I Hope so, I went to the site and didn't see any news about them. But that would be great, I would probably set them up with bar end shifters.
Here is a link to another forum with this same type discussion. I think you will like it. Scroll down to read it all.

https://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/KOG/message/17150

Another, scroll down until you see the picture of the salsa casseroll.

https://www.oldspokeshome.com/blog/

Contact Jtek or Oldspokeshome and give us an update.
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I think I remember that Walmart had a bike with drop bars and a twist shifter (the drops were two piece).
It may have been the model that CigTech was riding.
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It was, the Walmart GMC Denali (the first listing when you google "Walmart Denali" is CigTech's thread).
https://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/237231-review-gmc-denali-bicycle.html

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22.0 outside diameter on the bars, I think that would be close enough to use. It would be kind of strange buying a Denali for the bars!

The Travel Agent looks pretty interesting. I might have to wait for the Jtek's model though. I'm not too keen with the way the cable needs to bend coming in and out of the travel agent on the down tube. Hopefully with Jtek's shiftmate there will be a more graceful ben near the axle.

I just sent Jtek an email and will report what, if anything, they say. What would be really cool is if some company could just make a bar end shifter that worked with the Nexus.
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I have a response from Jtek.
Originally Posted by Jtek Engineering
I am machining a new Shiftmate type adaptor for SRAM shifters/barends to adaptor to Nexss hubs right now. Should be out in around 2-3 weeks.

After that project I'm going to start on the bar ends for Nexus. It may get put off a little to run some more inventory but there is a concept for them that will be tested soon and it's the next project on the list.

Regards,

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Originally Posted by SweetLou
It would be kind of strange buying a Denali for the bars!
I've been seriously thinking about it over the past few weeks. It seems like the cheapest non-gaudy way to make a sram Imotion work with drop bars, though I would prefer brifters. But the main problem is they don't seem to sell Denali's in Quebec wall marts so I'd probably have to buy one off craigslist in the US or maybe western Canada, and ask the seller to ship me just the handlebars/stem.
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Originally Posted by SweetLou
I have a response from Jtek.
I knew you weren't going to forget to give us a report. I could be all wrong, but I would guess Jtek's travel agent will be straight and mounted down on the chainstay just in front of the hub.

The link I posted above about the casseroll, uses a travel agent for brakes. Thats why it is curved so much.

Be sure and tell Jay THANKS!

Now we wait.
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Originally Posted by JeanCoutu
I've been seriously thinking about it over the past few weeks. It seems like the cheapest non-gaudy way to make a sram Imotion work with drop bars, though I would prefer brifters. But the main problem is they don't seem to sell Denali's in Quebec wall marts so I'd probably have to buy one off craigslist in the US or maybe western Canada, and ask the seller to ship me just the handlebars/stem.
I often see them on eBay also. The only problem though would be the outside diameter. The road brakes wouldn't fit, unless you used the Denali's. Or is there enough play to get the brake levers to tighten? I'm not really sure. If you wanted anything else to clamp onto the bars, you will have to make sure that they will work.

Carlton, I've been wondering how they will fit on the bike. I'm kind of guessing that it will actually attach to the axle. Though the chainstay/cable stop should also work.

I have been thinking about building a bike with a Nexus hub. This will be great because it will give me more options. I was thinking about using North Road bars, but now I might change that to the Midge or WTB's bars.
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I'm just guessing but I thought it might be like the one in this picture, but attached to a gearhub instead of a derailer. The second photo is of a straight travel agent, incase someone is reading this thread that doesn't know what we are ramblin about. Borrowed both potos from Jtek's site. Hope he doesn't mind.
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Originally Posted by JeanCoutu
I've been seriously thinking about it over the past few weeks. It seems like the cheapest non-gaudy way to make a sram Imotion work with drop bars, though I would prefer brifters. But the main problem is they don't seem to sell Denali's in Quebec wall marts so I'd probably have to buy one off craigslist in the US or maybe western Canada, and ask the seller to ship me just the handlebars/stem.
Maybe Jtek will make a shiftmate for sram gearhubs. He already makes them for mixing sram shifters with other componets.
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