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Old 06-15-09 | 08:44 AM
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It is just easier to change the laws of men than to change themselves to follow the laws of their god. This is a weakness that prevents them from being righteous. How do you fix this weaknwss? You fix it by removing the temptation to covet or perform the harder task of not coveting.
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Old 06-15-09 | 08:46 AM
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We just had a naked bunch of cyclists ride through the state capitol of Montpelier.
They let them ride through the building?
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Old 06-15-09 | 09:30 AM
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+1! Also, Didn't the Untied Nations resurrect an ancient nation just for the Post WW2 Jews, pissing off and dispossessing the local inhabitants, giving us the frucked up Mideast that we have today? If they want to go someplace "pure" then go to the home that the UN gave them! I'm just waiting for the UN to resurrect the Roman Empire while they are at it.

My friend, I'm Jewish, and I'm sure many others here are, too. I don't sympathize with the complaints from those folks in Brooklyn. It's difficult when cultures clash, for sure, but I don't feel they have any right to impose their own rules on the rest of society, especially in a public space.

However, you've gone way too far, and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't speak of all Jews and Israel so disrespectfully. I don't speak for all Jews, and neither does anyone else. As an individual, I disagree with many Israeli policies, but it is currently a sovereign nation and should be viewed as such.
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Old 06-15-09 | 09:38 AM
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...but it is currently a sovereign nation and should be viewed as such.
So is North Korea. And Iraq. And Iran. What's your point?
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Old 06-15-09 | 09:51 AM
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However, you've gone way too far, and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't speak of all Jews and Israel so disrespectfully. I don't speak for all Jews, .
You can speak for me,


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Old 06-15-09 | 11:00 AM
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They let them ride through the building?
I'll suggest that to the coalition leaders. Sounds like a riot! "Guard! Guard! Shoot that NAKED WOMAN!!"
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Old 06-15-09 | 12:36 PM
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So is North Korea. And Iraq. And Iran. What's your point?
My point is that I hope we can all speak to each other with respect. I don't think it's too much to ask. That was an unjustified slam against Jews and Israel.
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Old 06-15-09 | 04:13 PM
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This thread is sounding like it should be moved to P&R. Let's steer it back toward bicycles or it's outta here.
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Old 06-15-09 | 04:24 PM
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that article is almost a year old
...already been discussed.
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Old 06-15-09 | 07:23 PM
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My friend, I'm Jewish, and I'm sure many others here are, too. I don't sympathize with the complaints from those folks in Brooklyn. It's difficult when cultures clash, for sure, but I don't feel they have any right to impose their own rules on the rest of society, especially in a public space.

However, you've gone way too far, and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't speak of all Jews and Israel so disrespectfully. I don't speak for all Jews, and neither does anyone else. As an individual, I disagree with many Israeli policies, but it is currently a sovereign nation and should be viewed as such.
My disrespect is for the UN and the Brits for making a bloody mess. That is where my sarcasm was directed.
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Old 06-15-09 | 10:04 PM
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Your wording could have been clearer, in that case. You used the term post WW2 Jews. That includes all living Jews.
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Old 06-16-09 | 03:30 PM
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Old 06-16-09 | 08:16 PM
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Your wording could have been clearer, in that case. You used the term post WW2 Jews. That includes all living Jews.
My apologies for not being clear.
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Old 07-19-09 | 07:52 PM
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I don't think having different dress standards from the rest of society qualifies a group as nutjobs.
Having a different dress standard for oneself is completely fine. Having a different dress standard for people who pass through public streets of your neighbourhood is firmly into nutjobery territory.
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Old 07-19-09 | 07:59 PM
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In Utah you can't smoke tobacco (or anything else) in your own car. Even on the highway - just passing through.

It's illegal to tie your shoe in public in Denver, Colorado...
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Old 07-19-09 | 08:10 PM
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Me too - the only thing I will not tolerate is intolerance. And Hummers.
What the heck is wrong with hummers?

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Old 07-19-09 | 11:26 PM
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Frack this. It reminds me of the many laws imposed on women in the islamic countries because the muslim men don't have the balls to keep their dick inside their robes. FAIL.
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Old 07-19-09 | 11:42 PM
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You do??! I must be Muslim!

Actually France has outlawed the Burqua and the veil - in Public. Period. Reason given: We don't force our women to dress a certain way. So you can't either.
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Old 07-20-09 | 12:35 AM
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Old 07-20-09 | 07:26 AM
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From the article: "Leaders of South Williamsburg's Hasidic community said yesterday that bike lanes that bring scantily clad cyclists - especially sexy women - peddling through their neighborhood are definitely not kosher."

What exactly are the women accused of "peddling" (i.e. selling)? I expect to see the confusion between 'peddle' and 'pedal' in forum posts, but I'm a little surprised to see it in a newspaper article, even if it is the New York Post instead of the Times.
I missed that spelling error, but the fact that they referred to the "Hasidic" community instead of identifying the particular sect or sects further illustrates their poor journalistic quality.

The article never identified who was a leader of what group, other than one person who is a member of the Community Board (a public, secular position). For all we know, this could just be some outspoken private individuals expressing their opinion in a public forum, as is their right, with no indication of what the actual religious leaders are doing.

For what it's worth, the largest sect in Williamsburg is the Satmar sect, a group that doesn't even approve of the state of Israel (believing they need to wait for the Messiah before establishing a government in Israel). Their reputation is separatist, even from other Jewish groups, which raises my suspicions of the article, but I suppose they may be taking a more active role in local government these days.

In any event, the desire to impose your rules on other people comes in all flavors, not just religious.
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Old 07-20-09 | 08:25 AM
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We gonna have to move this one to politics and religion soon.
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