remote central bicycle locking?
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remote central bicycle locking?
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let me know what you think of my design.breeny
let me know what you think of my design.breeny
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Well let me just load it into the back of my yukon real quick, then once I get home I can spend countless hours unlocking it, and even recoding it to work with my locks! Yay! I didn't even have to cut a lock!
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Ingenious, but once you have lowered the seat and ridden it home in the manner of the original Draisiene (sp?) bikes, all you have to do is change the BB. As an extra deterant I dont think it would be effective because you cant see it is there.
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That's a really cool idea. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable using that as the only deterrant method, but it'd make a nice addition to a traditional lock.
I don't want to put down your idea or anything because I DO like it, so please don't take this as anything other then helpful criticism. Here are the reasons I wouldn't feel comfortable using it by itself:
1.) Doesn't protect my wheels. I ride a bike I paid $7 for but I'm adding a $250 wheelset (and I know many people spend much more). On a brand new bike that would come equipped with a feature like this, I'm willing to bet there's a pretty nice set of components & wheels.
2.) Doesn't stop people from throwing it into a van or truck. I see how your design stops people from removing the BB if the lock is engaged, but they could still use a drill and/or various cutting tools to work through it off-site.
3.) My batteries for the remote or locking mechanism would die. I'm sure they're replaceable, but that doesn't help me right then & there - and those things always happen at the most inopportune moments. In a car, I have a key. In custom cars with shaved doors, they usually have a backup switch hidden somewhere.
If you have answers/solutions to those three concerns, then I'm sold
. Keep thinking - I like where this is going.
I don't want to put down your idea or anything because I DO like it, so please don't take this as anything other then helpful criticism. Here are the reasons I wouldn't feel comfortable using it by itself:
1.) Doesn't protect my wheels. I ride a bike I paid $7 for but I'm adding a $250 wheelset (and I know many people spend much more). On a brand new bike that would come equipped with a feature like this, I'm willing to bet there's a pretty nice set of components & wheels.
2.) Doesn't stop people from throwing it into a van or truck. I see how your design stops people from removing the BB if the lock is engaged, but they could still use a drill and/or various cutting tools to work through it off-site.
3.) My batteries for the remote or locking mechanism would die. I'm sure they're replaceable, but that doesn't help me right then & there - and those things always happen at the most inopportune moments. In a car, I have a key. In custom cars with shaved doors, they usually have a backup switch hidden somewhere.
If you have answers/solutions to those three concerns, then I'm sold
. Keep thinking - I like where this is going.
Last edited by HoboRandy; 11-11-04 at 04:57 PM.
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thanks for the input.
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
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Originally Posted by breeny
thanks for the input.
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
So while your lock might be nicer, I still have to carry the other lock to keep my bike from simply being carried away.
Weight alone makes it a negative.
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Originally Posted by breeny
thanks for the input.
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
1)my lock is not meant to be used by itself,it is meant to put poeple off.
2)when i think of a bike thief,i dont think of someone cruising around in a pickup or wanting to scoot away like riding a draisiene,or having countless hours to spend stripping bb & recoding keyfobs.
i do know however that some carry battery power handsaws,
wanting to turn your $2500 kona into $100 easy money.
3)it is early days,thinking something like a small winder like the wind up electric radio.
peter
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bahahaha I had a revalation. I went to McDonald's this morning and I work I guess you could say on the bad side of town. It's not the projects, but the older part of the city. I just propped my bike up against a handicapped sign and went inside since it was in plain view. This guy walked by and started eyeing my bike so I stood up walked outside to ask him if he liked it (total ********, just to get him to run off) and he immediately walked off. Not being able to pedal the bike would actually not be that bad of an idea. Still doesn't solve the throwing it in a truck scenario.
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Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
bahahaha I had a revalation. I went to McDonald's this morning and I work I guess you could say on the bad side of town. It's not the projects, but the older part of the city. I just propped my bike up against a handicapped sign and went inside since it was in plain view. This guy walked by and started eyeing my bike so I stood up walked outside to ask him if he liked it (total ********, just to get him to run off) and he immediately walked off. Not being able to pedal the bike would actually not be that bad of an idea. Still doesn't solve the throwing it in a truck scenario.
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I rather like the inventiveness of this, especially as an addition to other locking devices for security on town/commuter bikes. I have a couple of questions:
How easy would it be to fit to a bike? I'm thinking of the difficulty of inserting the components into the frame, especuially those enclosed in the down-tube.
Presumably your solenoid is a latching type, so that the only power consumed is during a lock/unlock operation?
Have you considered a similar mechanism to lock the steerer tube - that really would prevent riding and a bike that won't steer is even a pain to push. You would have to be double sure that it could not deploy in normal use though....
Cheers and good luck,
Ed
How easy would it be to fit to a bike? I'm thinking of the difficulty of inserting the components into the frame, especuially those enclosed in the down-tube.
Presumably your solenoid is a latching type, so that the only power consumed is during a lock/unlock operation?
Have you considered a similar mechanism to lock the steerer tube - that really would prevent riding and a bike that won't steer is even a pain to push. You would have to be double sure that it could not deploy in normal use though....
Cheers and good luck,
Ed
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