Stop sign & Red lights for Kansas......
09-26-11 | 01:17 PM
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Stop sign & Red lights for Kansas......
This new law might turn out to be not such a good idea.........
https://www.grist.org/biking/2011-09-...when-it-doesnt
https://www.grist.org/biking/2011-09-...when-it-doesnt
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My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.
Originally Posted by krazygluon
Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.
Originally Posted by krazygluon
Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?
09-26-11 | 01:40 PM
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"reasonable time" is kinda vague, but. The way I see it, you still have to stop. Nothing much has changed. But it gives you legal reason to go thru if the light doesn't change. Stop sign means stop as always even though the writer didn't mention a thing about it.
Don't care much for the writer's style. It was written 'to sell'. Not written to dispense information. This is why I no longer subscribe to any newspapers. Journalists that don't do their job and moreover journalists that write for an agenda(not the case in this article)
Don't care much for the writer's style. It was written 'to sell'. Not written to dispense information. This is why I no longer subscribe to any newspapers. Journalists that don't do their job and moreover journalists that write for an agenda(not the case in this article)
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09-26-11 | 02:33 PM
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This new law might turn out to be not such a good idea.........
https://www.grist.org/biking/2011-09-...when-it-doesnt
https://www.grist.org/biking/2011-09-...when-it-doesnt
(Note that the KS law is not an "Idaho Stop" law.)
09-26-11 | 02:37 PM
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"Reasonable time" means giving the light enough time to change.
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No, what is "reasonable" is what would be reasonable to a judge or jury. It's unlikely that "no time at all" would seem reasonable to people one would have to make the argument to.
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Originally Posted by article
The Kansas dead red law allows motorcycles and bicycles to continue through a red light if it doesn't change in a "reasonable" amount of time -- a vague measurement at best. For Fry, reasonable meant no time at all: She encountered this light every day and knew that there was no way for a biker to trigger it. Whether or not a police officer or a judge would agree is another question.
