musky

Hi
first time poster so Im sorry if there is a different section this should be posted in
Im looking to buy my first good road pump

the genuine innovations 2nd wind looks like the best of both worlds it is co2 and a hand pump,,,I really like this if it performs well "does it" I really would like to hear about the hand pump part of this its very small and would like to know if it delivers enough air and that it holds up-durrable,,,I live in Minnesota so the co2 wont flow well in cold seasons so the hand pump part is important to me.

or should I go with a topeak road morph which I hear is a fantastic hand pump but no co2

both these would be used for flat tires not routine air fill ups

thanks for your input

Retro Grouch 

The laws of physics can't be violated no matter who makes the pump. A certain volume of air is necessary to get your tire up to operating pressure. A dinky little pump can only deliver a dinky little volume of air with each stroke.

musky

OOOOOK,,,,,so what should I go with******************************

Stannian

Haha. Gotta love bike forums. I would go with the road morph. It is much easier to use because of the hose and has a good amount of air volume, which is important, because, remember, the laws of physics cannot be violated, even though the brand is printed on the side. The second wind is harder to use, and it is an odd feeling to waste a CO2 every time you have to pump up the tire, unless you are racing. I have sold hundreds of the road morphs and very rarely has anyone complained.

Retro Grouch 

Back in my road bike riding days I just used a CO2 with no back up. It was convenient, ultra fast and fit in my saddle bag. Just be careful not to pinch your tube under the tire bead.

15 grams of CO2 won't do it for my 1.5" recumbent tires so I bought a Road Morph. It's only drawback, that I can see, is that it's kind of clunky-looking. My recumbent has a bag that's big enough to hide the Road Morph so I don't care.

musky

thanks guys the info is much welcome

how bout the lezyne road pumps has a 3rd option something like the lezyne road drive seems on the same level has a road morph both have the flexible tube alot of good reviews on the lezynes they seem to deliver a ton of air per stroke

I like the idea of a hand pump because sometimes I can limp home on a slow leak if I stop to fill a couple times instead of changing tubes outside in the sometime harsh Minn climate

10 Wheels

Do it with the topeak road morph

Mobile 155

I like the road morph but I have a Second wind on my Klein and a Lezyne on my Tarmac. I have a Specialized Co-tool on my Trek MTB. Allbut the morph have a pump function and can use CO-2. The second wind is almost as fast pumping up a tire but doesn't have a gage. The morph will get me to 90 pounds faster but takes a bit of effort to get to 120 or 130 depending on if I have my 23 or 25 tires on. The second wind doesn't have a hose nor does the Specialized doesn't either. The Lezyne doesn't have a gage but will pump to 160 for those that need 160, not me. But the selling factor was the addition of a CO-2 function. I have a friend that gets his co-2 16 grams for less than a buck in bulk and I get mine from him. So I can use a co-2 if I want and if I am not in a hurry I can use the pump. My first choice would be the Lezyne. The Second wind I have will pump my 700c in less than 100 strokes but doesn't haver a flexable hose.

All I am saying is all three pumps you mention are good pumps and I have nothing against the Morph. But the option of using the CO-2 can be a great advantage on a hot day when you don't have a place in the shade to change a tube. The Second Wind and Lezyne are pretty light compared to the Morph.