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As a others have intimated, I think it's because they're (now) such a corporate mega-company. This isn't necessarily indicative of the quality of their bikes, but they do come off as a soulless, crassly commercial entity.
While I certainly harbor no sort of vendetta towards them, I'm much more partial to more quirky, pragmatic makers like Surly. While Surly is certainly a multi-national brand (owned by QBP), it's my understanding that they're still managed/operated by the same persons who started the company. Again, I don't have anything against Trek; I just don't think much distinguishes them from Specialized, Diamondback, Marin, or most of the other mega manufacturers. |
Originally Posted by AlanK
(Post 16187052)
While I certainly harbor no sort of vendetta towards them, I'm much more partial to more quirky, pragmatic makers like Surly. While Surly is certainly a multi-national brand (owned by QBP), it's my understanding that their still managed/operated by the same persons who started the company. Again, I don't have anything against Trek; I just don't think much distinguishes them from Specialized, Diamondback, Marin, or most of the other mega manufacturers. |
Originally Posted by rebel1916
(Post 16187106)
I think it is a fundamental tendency towards being a retrogrouch that makes you think a surly is a better choice than a Trek. And I think Treks stink on ice.
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I don't hate Trek, but I don't really want one either because they are so common. I like Marin, Jamis, Kona, Redline, and to some extent Cannondale, mostly because they are less common.
I mean I see Trek FX everywhere...and I don't really want any part of that. Now Trek XO, Crossrip, or Lemond, though, I think I could do because at least those aren't so common. I wouldn't mind having a Trek 930 or similar with some slicks either. |
Really guys with a machine as simple as a bike, what is the real difference. Most frames are built is Asia, and the rest of the bike is dressed with various components from all over the world too.
I would bet the farm that no one even a professional that was put on a bike painted all black, could they could tell any difference between the brands. Frame materials probably, but not bikes made with the same frame material. One final note is that Trek is an American company which to my mind is a good deal, since it provides jobs for American workers. Just like cars that are foreign, that does not make them better. |
Here, as typical, Importing company brand sales territory is population based..
so the 2 major brands, .. Both actually made by a 3rd company, in Taiwan , ROC are sold in different towns , 20+ miles a part.. |
They hate on Treks cause it makes them feel better about spending 3k for a bike.
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Treks cost 3 grand and more. But do they make good bikes?
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But would you spend 3k on a Trek, or something more "******"?
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I would get a frame and build it up with Campy.
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Or Hate Giant or Merida, but like another Brand, not Knowing that Giant or Merida Actually made it.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
(Post 16121846)
I lost all respect for Trek when they fired Greg LeMond after he accused Lance Armstrong of doping.
I use to work in a bike shop for a couple of years and they sold Trek bikes. I don't see why anyone would have anything against Trek other than being biased towards other companies for their own favorite reasons. Manny |
Elephant in the room: Lance. Period.
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Originally Posted by kaliayev
(Post 16124559)
Who among the big bike companies does not outsource their frame builds? At least Trek does build it's top line frames here in the US. Some companies like Speacalized have never built their own bike anywhere.
Originally Posted by mcoovelis
(Post 16197771)
Elephant in the room: Lance. Period.
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I don't hate any bike company. I'm just saying people associate Trek with Armstrong. When he was superman, Trek sales and prestige reached a peak. When Lance fell from grace, Trek fell with him. Trek, Specialized...at any given price point, there's not a dime's worth of difference between them. But I bet the Trek execs put some blame on their golden boy.
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Originally Posted by mcoovelis
(Post 16200838)
I don't hate any bike company. I'm just saying people associate Trek with Armstrong. When he was superman, Trek sales and prestige reached a peak. When Lance fell from grace, Trek fell with him. Trek, Specialized...at any given price point, there's not a dime's worth of difference between them. But I bet the Trek execs put some blame on their golden boy.
I do wonder how that impacted overall US bike sales, year over year, esp. for road bikes... |
Originally Posted by john.b
(Post 16200305)
Do you also hate Specialized for sponsoring Contador? :lol:
95% of the people buying bikes in the US have never heard of the king of tainted beef. :D Try this experiment to see how knowledgeable the average American cyclist is. Go to a group ride, head out with the C group, and as you pass each one, ask them who Andy Hampsten is. ;) |
After looking at a number of mass produced touring bikes, I chose the Trek 520. It seemed to be the best all around bike and our Trek bike shop is staffed by quality riders and great people.
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You could separate bikers into two groups. One who rides what they like. And the other who is influenced by everyone else because they want to be either the same or different.
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Wonder if anybody hates the US post office??? damn that Lance Armstrong,, I hear that the post office is going bankrupt now!!! thats all we need let them all go postal!!!
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Originally Posted by Fastfingaz
(Post 16202686)
Wonder if anybody hates the US post office??? damn that Lance Armstrong,, I hear that the post office is going bankrupt now!!! thats all we need let them all go postal!!!
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Originally Posted by cafzali
(Post 16202874)
When's the last time that you bought a stamp and put a letter or package in the mail?
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there are a few reasons I don't and won't own a trek.
1) I have enough bikes that I look for something different and nice. 2) When I purchased my Cannondale, looked at Trek and the finish of the Cdale was much nicer 3) When I go on a group tour there are too many treks, I like my bike to stand out a little. 4) I like lugged steel frames, classic Italian frames |
Originally Posted by jsdavis
(Post 16187380)
I don't hate Trek, but I don't really want one either because they are so common. I like Marin, Jamis, Kona, Redline, and to some extent Cannondale, mostly because they are less common.
I mean I see Trek FX everywhere...and I don't really want any part of that. Now Trek XO, Crossrip, or Lemond, though, I think I could do because at least those aren't so common. In a way, it was good that I knew little about Trek back then. Otherwise, Trek would have been off my list. |
I like my trex. I bought it used and would rather spend the money I did on an older trex than the same money for a new walmart/big-box bike.
What I don't like is the attention it gets. Some people just see the name and assume it is an expensive bike and sometimes (rarely) it has to get parked and locked in some not so good parts of town. Even in my small town we have thieves looking to make a quick buck. If I lived in an area of even more theft, Id prob take off the trex names or rattle can it. |
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