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#101
I eat carbide.


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I got chills watching it. Brought back a lot of memories. Especially the sounds.
...needs more cowbell though.
...needs more cowbell though.
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#102
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Chicagoland
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Pro (Carbon), Specialized Langster, Specialized Sequoia, No-name MTB
I'm looking forward to trying this out. My cycling "season" has sucked this year - due to selling/buying houses and moving and all the associated fun that goes with owning a new house. I figure if I try some CX this fall, it will hopefully make up for (in my mind) the lack of riding this summer.
I have my '03 Specialized Sequoia, converted to CX format with 32c tires, and a MTB cassette. Need some different pedals and I'm set to suck at CX. I think the Dekalb event will be where I try. goal: just finish, that is all.
I have my '03 Specialized Sequoia, converted to CX format with 32c tires, and a MTB cassette. Need some different pedals and I'm set to suck at CX. I think the Dekalb event will be where I try. goal: just finish, that is all.
#103
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I'm looking forward to trying this out. My cycling "season" has sucked this year - due to selling/buying houses and moving and all the associated fun that goes with owning a new house. I figure if I try some CX this fall, it will hopefully make up for (in my mind) the lack of riding this summer.
I have my '03 Specialized Sequoia, converted to CX format with 32c tires, and a MTB cassette. Need some different pedals and I'm set to suck at CX. I think the Dekalb event will be where I try. goal: just finish, that is all.
I have my '03 Specialized Sequoia, converted to CX format with 32c tires, and a MTB cassette. Need some different pedals and I'm set to suck at CX. I think the Dekalb event will be where I try. goal: just finish, that is all.
Set your sites higher. Like, finish without barfing.
#104
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Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Northeast Wisconsin
Bikes: Road, CX and mountain
I'm a ration of 5 CX events this fall.
Got 4 of them picked out and I'm requesting your input in deciding the best bang for the buck (or the one that involves the least suffering -- this means less than Whitewater -- or offers the most distilled/brewed hand-ups from spectators):
11/8 Eastbrook Park CX
or
11/14 Kletsch Park CX
Got 4 of them picked out and I'm requesting your input in deciding the best bang for the buck (or the one that involves the least suffering -- this means less than Whitewater -- or offers the most distilled/brewed hand-ups from spectators):
11/8 Eastbrook Park CX
or
11/14 Kletsch Park CX
#105
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I'm a ration of 5 CX events this fall.
Got 4 of them picked out and I'm requesting your input in deciding the best bang for the buck (or the one that involves the least suffering -- this means less than Whitewater -- or offers the most distilled/brewed hand-ups from spectators):
11/8 Eastbrook Park CX
or
11/14 Kletsch Park CX
Got 4 of them picked out and I'm requesting your input in deciding the best bang for the buck (or the one that involves the least suffering -- this means less than Whitewater -- or offers the most distilled/brewed hand-ups from spectators):
11/8 Eastbrook Park CX
or
11/14 Kletsch Park CX
I say you should do them both. And bring your tackle. It's probably too late to get any decent Salmon, but you still have a shot at a Steelhead or nice Brown.
#106
#109
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From: Schaumburg, IL
Bikes: Trek 5000
Now that cyclocross season is closing in, a number of us will start cyclocross specific training on Tuesday nights. PSI, you're working in Elk Grove, we'll have the training close to Alexian Brothers 6-7pm. Take Bisner (West side of hospital) past the forest preserve entrance down to Cosman. We normally have Tuesday sprint practice down Cosman. We use the large loop for a recovery/leadout loop from the back of the hospital. Starting Tuesday, in addition to the sprints, they'll have specific training fot the cyclcross riders. Meet at Cosman.
#111
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Go with the 35's unless you have problems. Even if they're bad, I doubt they'll cost you more spots than beginner technique or cyclocross skills will. If you don't like them after a few races, switch them out.
For us Cat4 types, tire pressure is probably more initially important than tread pattern.
#112
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Yup, Dial in that tire pressure. I ran under 20 psi in one race (by mistake) and it helped me get 2nd place because the ground was frozen turf ripples and it smoothed them out. Did the same thing in another race and lost about 15 places because the tire folded over on every corner and I had no control.
THe chicago courses are very groomed and what mud there is is very minor. I plan on running a Michelin Mud on the front and a Jet (semi slick) on the back - this is a classic combination and will get you through 80% of races without a hitch. Northbrook is the only race where it was worth running a Mud on the back as well - and that's only if it's wet. 32 mm tires are fine for Chicrosscup, but if you go to Wisconsin (and I recommend that you do) some of the courses there are much rougher and 34 mm tires will do better.
I got through the Bartlett mud ok with a Jet, and more than made up the couple of seconds I lost by being able to zoom the rest of the course - it had some very fast sections.
So, you can get away with just about any tire in Chicrosscup races as long as the pressure is adjusted for the conditions.
I have just finally figured out how to run my wheels tubeless, and it definitely makes a difference. A big ride improvement.
THe chicago courses are very groomed and what mud there is is very minor. I plan on running a Michelin Mud on the front and a Jet (semi slick) on the back - this is a classic combination and will get you through 80% of races without a hitch. Northbrook is the only race where it was worth running a Mud on the back as well - and that's only if it's wet. 32 mm tires are fine for Chicrosscup, but if you go to Wisconsin (and I recommend that you do) some of the courses there are much rougher and 34 mm tires will do better.
I got through the Bartlett mud ok with a Jet, and more than made up the couple of seconds I lost by being able to zoom the rest of the course - it had some very fast sections.
So, you can get away with just about any tire in Chicrosscup races as long as the pressure is adjusted for the conditions.
I have just finally figured out how to run my wheels tubeless, and it definitely makes a difference. A big ride improvement.
#113
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Yup, Dial in that tire pressure. I ran under 20 psi in one race (by mistake) and it helped me get 2nd place because the ground was frozen turf ripples and it smoothed them out. Did the same thing in another race and lost about 15 places because the tire folded over on every corner and I had no control.
THe chicago courses are very groomed and what mud there is is very minor. I plan on running a Michelin Mud on the front and a Jet (semi slick) on the back - this is a classic combination and will get you through 80% of races without a hitch. Northbrook is the only race where it was worth running a Mud on the back as well - and that's only if it's wet. 32 mm tires are fine for Chicrosscup, but if you go to Wisconsin (and I recommend that you do) some of the courses there are much rougher and 34 mm tires will do better.
I got through the Bartlett mud ok with a Jet, and more than made up the couple of seconds I lost by being able to zoom the rest of the course - it had some very fast sections.
So, you can get away with just about any tire in Chicrosscup races as long as the pressure is adjusted for the conditions.
I have just finally figured out how to run my wheels tubeless, and it definitely makes a difference. A big ride improvement.
THe chicago courses are very groomed and what mud there is is very minor. I plan on running a Michelin Mud on the front and a Jet (semi slick) on the back - this is a classic combination and will get you through 80% of races without a hitch. Northbrook is the only race where it was worth running a Mud on the back as well - and that's only if it's wet. 32 mm tires are fine for Chicrosscup, but if you go to Wisconsin (and I recommend that you do) some of the courses there are much rougher and 34 mm tires will do better.
I got through the Bartlett mud ok with a Jet, and more than made up the couple of seconds I lost by being able to zoom the rest of the course - it had some very fast sections.
So, you can get away with just about any tire in Chicrosscup races as long as the pressure is adjusted for the conditions.
I have just finally figured out how to run my wheels tubeless, and it definitely makes a difference. A big ride improvement.
Even so, this year I'll be riding on the carbon tubulars that have been collecting dust in my garage for a couple of years. Until I wreck them, anyway.
The Bartlett mud did not agree with the panaracer, AT ALL. But, that alone wouldn't have really been enough to ditch them. It's not like I didn't get through there... or couldn't have run through there, either.
I think we're relatively lucky in the midwest with respect to mud and cyclocross. I didn't even see much last year that made me think you couldn't even get by with road brakes. Even Northbrook, I wouldn't say was that horrible.
#114
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Bartlett, DeKalb and Jackson Park had several Grass-pavement 90 degree transitions. Mud tends to accumulate right there, and you often still have mud on your tires. I have seen several people just in front of me wipe out on those turns. I ALWAYS take those transitions very easy, simply not worth trying to force it. Crashing on pavement isn't worth the risk. For safety's sake, it would be great if course designers allowed a shallower angle to transition instead of a sharp turn - not hard to incorporate, even just by making the course a bit wider at that point.
At Northbrook there was a transition from that steep off-camber to a hairpin pavement corner that lots of people wiped out on as well. Lots of mud on pavement and tires made it very slippery and many took the corner too hot - not the course designers fault.
AS MJH2 said, road brakes would have worked on every course - except for the Tour de Groundhog in Springfield where even a derailleur was a disadvantage.
At Northbrook there was a transition from that steep off-camber to a hairpin pavement corner that lots of people wiped out on as well. Lots of mud on pavement and tires made it very slippery and many took the corner too hot - not the course designers fault.
AS MJH2 said, road brakes would have worked on every course - except for the Tour de Groundhog in Springfield where even a derailleur was a disadvantage.
#115
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Bartlett, DeKalb and Jackson Park had several Grass-pavement 90 degree transitions. Mud tends to accumulate right there, and you often still have mud on your tires. I have seen several people just in front of me wipe out on those turns. I ALWAYS take those transitions very easy, simply not worth trying to force it. Crashing on pavement isn't worth the risk. For safety's sake, it would be great if course designers allowed a shallower angle to transition instead of a sharp turn - not hard to incorporate, even just by making the course a bit wider at that point.
At Northbrook there was a transition from that steep off-camber to a hairpin pavement corner that lots of people wiped out on as well. Lots of mud on pavement and tires made it very slippery and many took the corner too hot - not the course designers fault.
AS MJH2 said, road brakes would have worked on every course - except for the Tour de Groundhog in Springfield where even a derailleur was a disadvantage.
At Northbrook there was a transition from that steep off-camber to a hairpin pavement corner that lots of people wiped out on as well. Lots of mud on pavement and tires made it very slippery and many took the corner too hot - not the course designers fault.
AS MJH2 said, road brakes would have worked on every course - except for the Tour de Groundhog in Springfield where even a derailleur was a disadvantage.
#116
#117
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#121
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Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Schaumburg, IL
Bikes: Trek 5000
Thanks for the advice on the tires. I was training with some guys from Village Cycle team and they also advised for lower tire psi. They said even with dry conditions, it smooths out the course. The simple training was hard!! This will definitely strengthen my legs!!
#122
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From: Schaumburg, IL
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#123
Arschgaudi

Joined: Oct 2003
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From: Chicago (Beverly)
Bikes: Merckx Team SC, Masi (fixed), Merckx Cyclo-Cross
#124
Pretty funny. I think, if you put a rider going over the barrier prominently in the front, with the P.O.'d golfer in the back, they you've got it! But then, I know, everybody is a critic with their own opinion. I learned that! LOL
Nice job.
Nice job.
#125
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From: Schaumburg, IL
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I did not realize it was a three pager...I like the first two and agree with John on the golfer. BUT....that is a nit. It looks good. I like the Super Girl endorsment!!!




