^ i have moved it back and forward. i found that it's more comfortable when the saddle is all the way forward - like in the direction of the handle bars. when it's level, i still have the problem of sliding off the wider part of the saddle to the front.... i reposition myself like every few seconds - it's soooo annoying!

have not looked into riding shorts yet but i may just do that. i really think i need a wider saddle but i will go for a fitment to be sure. i feel like my sit bones are so close to the edge of the wider portion of the saddle that, while riding, i slide forward naturally. i think if i had a wider saddle, my sit bones would stay put...

i tried tilting the nose of the saddle a little higher but i dont remember how comfy that was. i will try this again tonite to be sure.

I wear MTB shorts ....2009 VO2 lined from Race Face. Got'em here:

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/C...ategoryID=1524

If youre' wearing regular shorts or jeans...cycling shorts will help. 3D chamios liner ftw.

thanks for the link kshep. LOL @ jeans. I wear jeans sometimes and sometimes it's running pants.

I wish i could take pics of some of the people i see on the bike path. i have seen business men in suits on bikes, i even saw one guy standing on the peddles of his dahon folding bike with his wife sitting on the seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's the bike equivalent of the clown car! LMAO!

i've seen people carring construction materials and riding - not hammers - im talking about 8 feet long pieces of molding. i have seen people texting while riding. the worst thing i saw was a woman riding against traffic on a really busy street with her (maybe 5-6 year old) son riding on a bike behind her - wobbling because he couldnt control the bike - inches away from cabs, trucks, etc. =/

so i think im quite normal wearing jeans

back onto topic - im going to get biking shorts the next time im at a sports store - sports authority, dicks sporting goods or even paragon sports here in manhattan.

and thinking about it - i dont know why saddles have that extrmely long extension/nose for men. that thing is sooo painful. i feel like having just a squared off or rounded off seat - almost like a rectangle- would be soo comfortable...

with the B135 you don't need bike shorts.

holy crap - the b135 weighs 1650 grams! that's nearly as much as my wheels!!!

:: falls off his office chair ROFLMAOING! ::

yeah but the rolling mass matters more. try one before you judge, or a B67, they are a simpler spring model.

most of us could lose 3 pounds and be even.....

I have a B66 on my 3-spd. Super comfortable - to me.

https://www.wallbike.com/B67.html

im definitely not judging - and i would be willing to try it if i wasnt so cheap. LOL.

based on the favorable and descriptive reviews, im going to be ordering this seat soon --

https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Cloud-...pr_product_top

Another vote here for the SMP4Bike range (the TRK is in a picture above). Personally I think the hybrid, with its narrower nose is worth the extra.

Looks extremely similar to the Avenir Comfy I got.

https://www.amazon.com/Avenir-Mens-Co...=1EHZAGS3JPG7T

The foam is about as perfect as it gets... but for me, the fat noise is a bit of an issue. What I know for sure is the Avenir and probably the Sunlite probably do far better the more upright one rides.

BTW, there seems to be a group ride in CP Friday nite, 10PM, leaving from Columbus Circle... of the casual, leisurely variety.

No, sh00k, n00oo!!!

Someone should have warned you when you said you wanted to buy a fast bike, bicycling hurts. I thought you already knew that. Ride hard and the pain in your legs and lungs should mask the pain in your soft bottom until it HTFU. More weight on your pedals, less on your bum. If it was easy, they would call it driving.

The more you spend on your bike, the more you are obligated to hammer. Lucky you didn't get the carbon bike. La-Z-Boy makes a nice line of saddles. Trade your Trek for an electric tricycle, and enjoy the ride!

^ LOL dude. i want a comfortable bike saddle, not a convertible sofa bed

riverside guy - i wont be able to make it fri night but that sounds so awesome! i would totally be interested in going since i havent ridden in central park yet.

also - if you dont mind me asking - what is your weight and height and how do you like your avenir saddle that you posted the link for? im 6'1" and 180 just for comparison. if you like it, im wondering if i would too... altho i know there is much more to consider than simply weight and height...

the wider the saddle is at the rear the more it will push you forward onto the nose of the saddle
and you'll be riding on your perineum and not on your sit bones- i have a specialized avatar on all my bikes- it's hard but not too hard but pretty narrow. you need to ride more to strengthen your lower back muscles and harden your backside. seats like the one you posted may look comfortable but are no good for long rides- they don't provide enough support

Or try the in between model like the B73 on my cruiser, though I prefer the 33 year old B66 for daily commuting. The B-66 came as OEM on my new 1976 Raleigh Superbe.

5" 9.5", 225.

I think it has great foam (as in seemingly perfect density), in that it provides plenty of cushioning. S/B the same there for you. Not the end all for me, though, it WOULD be if the nose was a lot thinner. I have "limited stretchability" in the groin, so when I get peddling hard, I will tend to get pushed forward to the point I'm riding on the noise more than the back of the saddle. So I do have to consciously move my bum back onto the wider part of the saddle.

I think Avenir is the Raleigh house brand; so any LBS that carries Raleigh should have some bikes with the saddle.

The CP loop is interesting. With the repaving of the East Drive, we have a very smooth roadway all around. There are 4 longish uphills and a monster one at the northern end. Also some nice downhills to get top speed out of your ride. The section from 59th to 80th on the East side tends to get very heavily trafficed, peds, carriages and the most PIA pedicabs!

Like I said, for me it was the fat nose that was causing that. With the stock saddle, no creeping forward, BUT even though it had some cushioning, it was painful on my sit bones. I got a gel seat cover, but that didn't help because (I think) the gel kinda filled the space below my crotch, leaving the bones riding on the meager saddle cushioning.

Actually, I think a big part of it is how upright you ride. My riding position has to be fairly forward unless I work on handlebars and such (at some point I want to raise them an inch, the bars are lower than the seat right now).

My conundrum is that I like to be leaned forward, somewhat aggressive for when I am biking for fitness. So I'm thinking of something I haven't seen, imagine a section of curved metal, much like drops. BUT have them come curved out and up while being behind the bars themselves. When I want to cruise, I can grab those, but I can also go back to being laid out by using the original bars.

Specialized body geometry saddles always treat me right. The stock saddle on my Sirrus is mighty comfortable and I dont feel it after a mile or two, and I have yet to wear my cycling shorts with that.

As far as shorts, www.aerotechdesigns.com and their men's pro bike shorts are a great company and great shorts. I bought a pair a bit over a year ago, and they are very nice, MADE IN THE USA and made very well, at that. You can spend more on a Taiwanese or Chinese product and not get the quality of the aerotech shorts. They have a few different models to chose from, the pro is the low end of the line, but still very good. the main differences are panel number and chamois quality. I don't know of many other US cycling shorts manufacturers...

Wow, you have an office chair? What make and model?

I was also curious about the Selle Royal Lookin. Anyone have a review? Thanks.

Can't comment on the Lookin line, but I did purchase their next model up the line, the Selle Royal Respiro Gel Athletic Mens Black ICS and, after over five hundred miles on it, I couldn't be happier with it. Note that they have three different models in their line-up, the relaxed and moderate being on the wider side and adding elastomers -- along with some weight of course.

I find my athletic model provides just the right amount of padding and more than covers my riding needs; extremely comfortable saddle yet also lightweight, well made and sporty -- it must be said that I don't ride my bike for longer than two hours in any one outing thus I can't vouch for its comfort beyond said time frame. I also purchased a medium saddle bag that clicks right into the saddle, and again, for me, it has worked perfectly as well as being a great value, what with the combo coming in at roughly $70.00 bucks.

Clickable thumbnail close-ups of the saddle/bag on my bike:





Lastly, as has been mentioned throughout this thread, the fact that I find this saddle amazing doesn't mean it won't be akin to a medieval torture instrument for others.

Not that I'd know or be interested in conducting a study, but it appears that no two butts are alike.

Can't give you a first butt assessment of the Selle Royal Lookin, but my wife has one on her bike and she loves it. In fact, we just bought her a new bike to replace one that was stolen , and she insisted that the Specialized BG Dolce saddle be removed and replaced with a SR Lookin before she would buy the bike. Her Lookin is the Athletic model.

I have a B17 on my Cannondale RoadWarrior and as much as I like it, I wish I had a Champion Flyer. I sold my last one with the bike and think its a great hybrid saddle. The springs provide just enough give to cushion the road.

I have a suspension seatpost and sprung seat that I took off from my 09 Fuji Crosstown 4.0 I would be willing to let go very cheap... I rode with it about 20 miles. I weigh in at 218 and can say that the suspension seatpost and sprung seat do their job. The seatpost suspension is adjustable as well as the springs on the seat. The only reason I took it off is because I swapped handlebars and could not get my seat height set right with the suspension seatpost. Anyway, pm me if your interested. (it is a 27.2mm seatpost).