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Old 07-22-17, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Roody
This is kinda crazy IMO. I have a relative who sets the thermostat at 70 in the summer and 76 in the winter! She swears that's the only way she can be comfortable.
There are a couple of possible logical explanations. She might be compensating for humidity. When you warm up cold air it gets much drier and when you cool down warm air it gets more humid, so it would make sense that you need to heat it a bit more in winter to compensate for low humidity and vice versa in summer. of course, you can also compensate by running a humidifier in winter and a dehumidifier in summer if you are using forced air. The other possibility is that her thermostat is in a central location and she's spending time in the periphery of the house, so some rooms, or some spots near a window, door or outside wall are colder than the thermostat indicates in winter and hotter than it shows in summer

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Originally Posted by Machka
For the most part ... I just simply dress for the conditions, take the necessary precautions for the conditions, and deal with it.
For your mental imagery pleasure, when I got home from work, I stripped naked, flopped down in a sling-type chair, and waited to stop sweating. When I woke up an hour later, I was still damp all over, (especially my scalp) despite some serious manspreading.

Cranking on the A/C even just to drop the 85+% humidity is pretty much necessary if you don't want to have to go through a big bottle of Gold Bond every week to avoid swamp crotch.
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Originally Posted by Roody
This is kinda crazy IMO. I have a relative who sets the thermostat at 70 in the summer and 76 in the winter! She swears that's the only way she can be comfortable. I am much more comfortable when I acclimate as much as possible to the outdoor temperature. At the very least, I would prefer the 76 in the summer and the 70 in winter.
I prefer 80 in the summer and 65 in the winter. It also makes the bicycling more pleasant. If you get used to 76 in the winter then you're that much colder when outside your home. And if you want 70 in the summer then you're "hot" when it's 85 outside and about to pass out a 95-100. I like to keep myself trained for lots of time comfortable outside. I get depressed spending too much time indoors.
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I prefer 80 in the summer and 65 in the winter. It also makes the bicycling more pleasant. If you get used to 76 in the winter then you're that much colder when outside your home. And if you want 70 in the summer then you're "hot" when it's 85 outside and about to pass out a 95-100. I like to keep myself trained for lots of time comfortable outside. I get depressed spending too much time indoors.
You are that much colder. I am not.

One thing. Many probably wear cycling gear. I don't. And I am warm in the winter. My face gets cold, but that is it. No matter what I do in the summer I am hot.

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In the summer when the heat index is over 100 you could remove all of your clothes and still be miserably hot, dangerously hot.
Here in Wisconsin, where we have real winters that get very cold and with snow, if you dress properly you can be comfortably warm enough to ride a bike or do what you please. I've done it for decades.
But I don't like the stifling heat of summer.
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In the summer when the heat index is over 100 you could remove all of your clothes and still be miserably hot, dangerously hot.
Here in Wisconsin, where we have real winters that get very cold and with snow, if you dress properly you can be comfortably warm enough to ride a bike or do what you please. I've done it for decades.
But I don't like the stifling heat of summer.
No big deal to me. Sweat, cool down. It helps to live where there's lots of trees.
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Originally Posted by elocs
In the summer when the heat index is over 100 you could remove all of your clothes and still be miserably hot, dangerously hot.
Here in Wisconsin, where we have real winters that get very cold and with snow, if you dress properly you can be comfortably warm enough to ride a bike or do what you please. I've done it for decades.
But I don't like the stifling heat of summer.
This is how I feel. Although your average snowfall is much greater than here.
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Hot here today. Two fires going in Santa Cruz CA at the moment. (Usually it cooled by a nice sea breeze).

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need a weiracle with that amp....
He better watch out for the Harbor Hooker.
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Originally Posted by StarBiker
You are that much colder. I am not.

One thing. Many probably wear cycling gear. I don't. And I am warm in the winter. My face gets cold, but that is it. No matter what I do in the summer I am hot.
I think your metabolism and other aspects of your autonomic physiology have to adapt to summer heat to acclimate and feel more comfortable. If you are a cold weather person, that means your body is good at tensing up and generating heat, as well as constricting blood flows in ways that prevent heat from radiating away from your body. Maybe you are good at choosing outfits and layering so that your body heat is perfectly insulated and reflected back to you inside your clothes.

With summer, you have to reverse these processes. Instead of eating foods to fuel muscle tension and generate heat, you have to eat food that is light and lets you relax so that your blood will fully circulate through your skin to radiate and evaporate/sweat heat away. Eating spicy foods helps because it causes you to sweat pro-actively.

If you keep doing things to cool down, like spritzing with cool mist or using wet towels or AC, drinking cold/iced drinks etc. that will trigger your body's responses to cold that generate and conserve heat, which you don't want to trigger. So you have to try to endure the heat without getting stressed about it and tensing up or getting emotional. The more you relax and sweat, the better your body will get at cooling itself naturally. You'll find yourself in a shady, breezy spot after doing some exercise and getting sweaty, and you'll find that the breeze on your sweaty skin actually feels a little cold. At that point, you know you are successfully acclimating to the heat; i.e. it's like when your eyes adjust to the low light at night and you suddenly realize the moonlight is bright enough to see. Shade and breeze/fans will make you feel cool or even cold, but you have to adjust by enduring the heat and practicing sweating for a while first.
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He better watch out for the Harbor Hooker.
I hope Weir doesn't mess with her.
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Its going to be 108 in Portland coming up soon, seems dangerous to ride in.
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Its going to be 108 in Portland coming up soon, seems dangerous to ride in.
But listen to Tandem. Don't drink that much water, and don't cool yourself down. You will adjust.
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Its going to be 108 in Portland coming up soon, seems dangerous to ride in.
Give yourself permission to go dog ass slow and remind yourself that at least you're out there.
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Give yourself permission to go dog ass slow and remind yourself that at least you're out there.
+1. Take your time, and be prepared to rest if you have to. You will get where you want to go sooner or later, just be a little smart and careful.

Sometimes I stop someplace shady or cool for 15-30 minutes. (E.g. park bench, library, big box store, McDonalds, etc, etc.) Or pretend like you're doing a triathlon and jump in a lake or pool for a few minutes!
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But listen to Tandem. Don't drink that much water, and don't cool yourself down. You will adjust.
Your body adapts to climate. Have you not noticed that a warm spring day will make you sweat, and a cold fall day will make you shiver and they are exactly the same temperature?
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Your body adapts to climate. Have you not noticed that a warm spring day will make you sweat, and a cold fall day will make you shiver and they are exactly the same temperature?
Sure, makes sense. When a person is uncomfortable while sweating on a warm spring day, all he has to do to get comfortable is wait for a cold fall day. And of course the converse works just as well, eh?

I found out that I really didn't need a decent defroster or heater in my '64 VW, just as long as I drove it to Florida for the winter.
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Sure, makes sense. When a person is uncomfortable while sweating on a warm spring day, all he has to do to get comfortable is wait for a cold fall day. And of course the converse works just as well, eh?

I found out that I really didn't need a decent defroster or heater in my '64 VW, just as long as I drove it to Florida for the winter.
This is probably full of lies because it comes from the US military: TITLE: Human Adaptations to Heat and Cold Stress https://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/p012427.pdf

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It's easier for me to ride when it's 30* than when it's 100*. You can dress for colder temps and be comfortable, but there's not much you can do about heat. I got acclimated to the heat quickly this year but I rode in 98* the other day and it was miserable, I drank a 70 oz camelbak dry in about 45 minutes. It's 74* out there today so I'm going to take advantage of it and get in a longer ride.
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It's easier for me to ride when it's 30* than when it's 100*. You can dress for colder temps and be comfortable, but there's not much you can do about heat. I got acclimated to the heat quickly this year but I rode in 98* the other day and it was miserable, I drank a 70 oz camelbak dry in about 45 minutes. It's 74* out there today so I'm going to take advantage of it and get in a longer ride.
Exactly. I'm 65 and there is absolutely no reason for me to ride my bike when it is dangerously hot outside.
That's what riding late in the evening and nights are for.
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This is probably full of lies because it comes from the US military: TITLE: Human Adaptations to Heat and Cold Stress https://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/p012427.pdf
Anything intelligent or relevant that you wish to relate after reading the publication that you referenced?
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Your body adapts to climate.

Yes and no...Humans can only exist comfortably in a very narrow temperature range...Extreme heat or extreme cold is problematic...That's why we need to wear clothes when it's cold and take precautions and stay well hydrated and take it easy when it's hot...Try going out in short sleeves when it's minus 25 below zero or try doing some intense physical activity in a desert heat in the middle of the day and see how well you adapt to climate .
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Your body adapts to climate. Have you not noticed that a warm spring day will make you sweat, and a cold fall day will make you shiver and they are exactly the same temperature?
It takes a hell of a lot to make me shiver. This past spring was great!

I have worked in heat my entire life. No little white collar jobs. I can tell you that you work through it, but it doesn't make you hate it less.

I think people are assuming because someone dislikes heat they can't handle it/are falling out/aren't adjusted. As far as I am concerned that is incorrect. The heat sux!
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