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I see that the organiser for the Edmonton events has changed. I can't remember the name of the previous organiser (Bill?) but if he's still around, he would be a good one to ride with. He paces himself very well and he knows when to stop for food. He'd be a good mentor. We rode the Elk Island 200K together and finished with a couple hours to spare.
To quote one paragraph in that article ("Eating an elephant" by Ron Himschoot) ...
My final piece of advice is to never quit a brevet until you've had an apple fritter (or a pain au chocolate). When you bonk, and you will, it affects your spirit as much as it impacts your physical performance. When you get to the point that you just cannot go on, eat something before you make a decision to quit. If you fail to finish, it should be because the time expired: not because you bonked, not because you were dehydrated, and not because you were tired. Eat an apple fritter, drink a liter of water, take a 15-minute nap, then get back on your bike and ride. The agony of defeat is mild compared to the haunting memory of quitting.
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Update: I re-rode the 300 (the one where I bonked 8 km from the end) on Friday July 20 and managed to finish this time. I still had problems with my stomach not wanting to accept any nutrients during the last 100 km, but I averted a bonk by taking it easy and resting when necessary, including sitting in a ditch for 20 minutes waiting for my stomach to settle at the 275 km mark. I worked on the mental aspect of the ride, first by not focusing as much on my finishing time, and second by not entertaining thoughts of quitting.
Nutritional intake is still an issue that needs to be resolved if I am to be successful in longer rides. Seems like some new things I'm trying are worse than what I used to do in past years. Live and learn.
Nutritional intake is still an issue that needs to be resolved if I am to be successful in longer rides. Seems like some new things I'm trying are worse than what I used to do in past years. Live and learn.
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Good job!
Yup, sounds like you have nutrition issues. Those can be hard to work out. You note that some things worked better in past years, and those might be worth trying again. But they were on shorter rides than this.
Even as an experienced randonneur, I still sometimes have nutrition issues, and what worked OK in past years probably wouldn't work well for me now. On recent rides, I've been eating "Alan Lim rice cakes" and those work very well at providing the calories without upset stomach.
Nick
Yup, sounds like you have nutrition issues. Those can be hard to work out. You note that some things worked better in past years, and those might be worth trying again. But they were on shorter rides than this.
Even as an experienced randonneur, I still sometimes have nutrition issues, and what worked OK in past years probably wouldn't work well for me now. On recent rides, I've been eating "Alan Lim rice cakes" and those work very well at providing the calories without upset stomach.
Nick
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Nutritional intake is still an issue that needs to be resolved if I am to be successful in longer rides. Seems like some new things I'm trying are worse than what I used to do in past years. Live and learn.
Have you ever thought of selecting much shorter goals of say - 50 or 100km and doing these workouts with other goals - such as pacing correctly?
Or do you "have to have" the group to motivate you?
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Update: I re-rode the 300 (the one where I bonked 8 km from the end) on Friday July 20 and managed to finish this time. I still had problems with my stomach not wanting to accept any nutrients during the last 100 km, but I averted a bonk by taking it easy and resting when necessary, including sitting in a ditch for 20 minutes waiting for my stomach to settle at the 275 km mark. I worked on the mental aspect of the ride, first by not focusing as much on my finishing time, and second by not entertaining thoughts of quitting.
Nutritional intake is still an issue that needs to be resolved if I am to be successful in longer rides. Seems like some new things I'm trying are worse than what I used to do in past years. Live and learn.
Nutritional intake is still an issue that needs to be resolved if I am to be successful in longer rides. Seems like some new things I'm trying are worse than what I used to do in past years. Live and learn.
Looking back the hardest thing I did was on the first ride. I bonked. I decided to stop and rest and NOT ride until I had finished an energy bar, a bananna and half a water bottle. Sticking close to that decision was very very hard. Yea I didn't quite finish the energy bar. But I did manage to rest a bit more after I thought I was fine.
BTW on the final leg of the 200 mile ride I flatted, nasty flat a piece of steel belt from a car tire. I got that fixed and had enough energy to chase at 25 MPH to catch riders I had been withe before. (Now thsi was the Grand Tour near Los Angeles and the last 50 miles are going south near the beach, which 90% of the time means a tail wind so the speed is a bit misleading. But I had totally recovered and more).
My last experience related to distance riding was when one of the ladies in our local club was trying the 300 mile option on the same ride. That is a bit tough as there is 24 hour limit. Oh and the way it goes from 200 to 300 is where most turn left to home and a tailwind the 300 and 400 mile options turn right to Santa Barbara and a head wind. I was meeting her at that point and riding with her.
Turned out to be a devilishly hot day. All the 300 mile riders who were making a choice were choosing to bail and she made that decision. Oh this was after she had completed Paris-Brest-Paris. Sometimes things go wrong and bailing is the right decision. But for yuo for now I think you need to be very slow to make a decision to bail. You need to do what you did here. Stop, invest 20-3- minutes to refueling and recovering.
IF at that point your body does not respond then consider calling it quits. But make that call rested, not bonked.
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