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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 10760895)
where's Isaias?? No trip report, no twitter? What's up?
I drank more than usual--Gatorade--and still... Maybe, I'm expecting too much of myself. Dunno. I need to work this problem out. Anyway, I'm glad no one else was around. It would have been scary to the uninitiated. DC RAND has witnessed it--was not a pretty sight. By the time my sister came and got me, the worse was over, so they didn't see it either. Bah. |
that sux. sorry to hear that.
wasn't there a character in the Tick cartoon who was so overwhelmed by his own muscles that he could barely even move? This what I'm imagining. water and electrolytes are understood to be contributors to cramping, but researchers really don't know the full story of why muscles cramp. It's an electrical thing. there are sad cases of people who cramp constantly even though they're well hydrated and not exerting themselves. |
Originally Posted by greaterbrown
(Post 10762134)
that sux. sorry to hear that.
wasn't there a character in the Tick cartoon who was so overwhelmed by his own muscles that he could barely even move? This what I'm imagining. water and electrolytes are understood to be contributors to cramping, but researchers really don't know the full story of why muscles cramp. It's an electrical thing. there are sad cases of people who cramp constantly even though they're well hydrated and not exerting themselves. I'm not blogging the ride, but here's what I wrote in the Notes: Hit the "wall". Hurt myself--again. Cramps in both legs, singly and both at the same time, in my right quad muscles, shoulders, and feet. I even got a cramp in the right side of my face, which must've looked strange, but doesn't hurt like the others. I need to work on a cooling vest or some other method of keeping my core temp down on hot/humid days like today. I guess I should have not tried to ride 35 miles to the ride start, then ride hard with the racers. Altogether, my "climbing index" was nearly a 10 (8395 ft of climbing / (85.61 miles x 100) = an index of 9.8--I think). Did I mention that it was hot and humid? I got scared enough that I called my parents' home for help. My brother and sister came out to get me at Harford Elementary School off of Pylesville Rd. By the time they found me (doesn't anyone else in my family know how to use Google Maps or have a GPS?) the worst of the "heat attack" was over. Besides--I had no choice, but to get up and start moving around. The place on the lawn where I was laying down, in the shade, had big black ants. They were crawling on me. I made the mistake of killing a few. They didn't like that, so they started biting. I had to get up, if even just to get away from the ants. |
Originally Posted by NoRacer
(Post 10762081)
I'm friggin' disgusted by what is starting to become a "history" for me with this heat thing.
I drank more than usual--Gatorade--and still... Maybe, I'm expecting too much of myself. Dunno. I need to work this problem out. Anyway, I'm glad no one else was around. It would have been scary to the uninitiated. DC RAND has witnessed it--was not a pretty sight. By the time my sister came and got me, the worse was over, so they didn't see it either. Bah. I know that foods high in GI can give you an insulin peak which is not really good for a long ride. Leg cramps are also tied to diabetes so I'm wondering since diabetes is an insulin problem then anything affecting sharp insulin peaks might also cause cramps. Since diabetes runs in my family I keep an eye on myself. I'm not diabetic but am guessing I lean in that direction. I try to watch my high GI intake on long rides which is hard since this is what I crave. That mango saved my butt. FWIW: I drank 2 big bottles of gatorade(>QT,~48oz), 1 soda, and at least 5 liters of water and still cramped a little. Seems like enough fluids but I only took 1 piss until I got home. How much more water can I drink??? Best, Dr. Charlie |
Your face cramped???
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I might be preaching to the choir but do you know how to stretch a muscle to get rid of a cramp? Each muscle can be moved(stretched) to eliminate the cramp. BUT you better know which way to move it or you'll increase the cramp.
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 10762241)
Your face cramped???
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 10762262)
I might be preaching to the choir but do you know how to stretch a muscle to get rid of a cramp? Each muscle can be moved(stretched) to eliminate the cramp. BUT you better know which way to move it or you'll increase the cramp.
But that day, in that area, there is no respite from the sun. Delta Rd is wide open to the sun. It becomes Pylesville Rd--open to the sun. If I would've made it farther south, Mountain Rd--open to the sun, then Rt 40... more of the same. The result would have been the same. Dessication. It was the wrong day to do that ride and any hard riding on top of it. |
Yeeeesh, NR, massive multiple cramps, attacked by ants . . . :eek: :(
I've read, in various contexts, that Gatorade is next to worthless for really hardcore endurance riding -- it just doesn't have enough electrolytes and potassium or what-all else that's needed. (I wonder how many RAAM racers have Gatorade sloshing in their water bottles?) Do you think you're getting enough calories, on a steady basis, over the course of your rides? (My sympathies! I also have always had issues with high heat/humidity; I've never been able to cope with it very well.) |
spent lunch reading on cramping. Magnesium might now be considered the most important electrolyte. Bean burritos at lunch.
http://www.cptips.com/muspain.htm |
Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 10763233)
spent lunch reading on cramping. Magnesium might now be considered the most important electrolyte. Bean burritos at lunch.
http://www.cptips.com/muspain.htm I still need to think of a way to keep my core temp down, though. Water bottles filled with ice in my back pockets perhaps? Maybe, all I need is to slow down on hot days. I've not had this problem during my ride to Ocean City the past three years--and, that's in July! |
Originally Posted by NoRacer
(Post 10763935)
I still need to think of a way to keep my core temp down, though. Water bottles filled with ice in my back pockets perhaps? Maybe, all I need is to slow down on hot days. I've not had this problem during my ride to Ocean City the past three years--and, that's in July!
I recall reading accounts of a 1200k a few years back (I think it was the Gold Rush Randonee?) at which blistering temperatures were really taking a toll on the randos. Some of them resorted to filling tube socks with ice and then knotting the ends and draping them around their necks. (Of course, they got a lot of water dripping all over them, but apparently it was worth it for the extra chill factor.) It sounds counter-intuitive, but I sometimes think my Camelbak helps in this regard -- yeah, it's extra weight and material, but it does block more sunshine from my back, and the water, which is resting against my back, stays much colder longer than it does in bottles. I dunno, though, I have kind of a love-hate thing going with the 'bak . . . :) |
the reason folks put cold stuff around their neck is to cool their arteries which cools their brain. This may also help NR. I have one of those bandanas which hold cold water and goes around your neck.
bike alliance meeting: how did it go? |
M2M ride report is up:
http://randoramble.posterous.com/18100138 |
Hey NR, have you tried using NUUN in your water bottles? They are awesome and taste great. http://www.nuun.com/ all of our racers use it and live by it.
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Originally Posted by Trek760
(Post 10766539)
Hey NR, have you tried using NUUN in your water bottles? They are awesome and taste great. http://www.nuun.com/ all of our racers use it and live by it.
I did do ZYM for a while, but it's expensive. NUUN seems to be less so. |
Originally Posted by greaterbrown
(Post 10766255)
M2M ride report is up:
http://randoramble.posterous.com/18100138 I'm sorry I missed your long-distance talk at Velocipede last night. ([bleep]ing work! :mad: I need to retire! :D) How did it go? |
Went to Bob's thing over at Velocipede last night. Very good. Appropriate for it's audience. There were about 20 folks there, I would guess.
As a side note: it's weird riding east on North Avenue at 8:30pm. There were lots of people out of their houses visiting with each other or just enjoying the evening by sitting on their stoup. Sinclair Ln was a bit challenging, especially by the Baltimore cemetery--lots of glass along the edge of the road. I was glad that I was not running skinny tires. |
GB: Nice write up and loved the picture of the buttercups. I remember that stretch and thought how beautiful it looked. I forgot to tell y'all about the osprey that dove into the Annacostia and grabbed a fish and flew off. Couldn't make your talk, sorry.
Elk or Harry:Baltimore Alliance update or a link of what happened at the meeting and next meeting date. Biking in Balto: here's arecent link from the City Paper http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=20132 You know most of what's in the article but it is a "call to arms" for cyclist. We gotta get more vocal. @trek or nuun users: How many do you do? every bottle of water, I drink a lot? |
Originally Posted by NoRacer
(Post 10767047)
As a side note: it's weird riding east on North Avenue at 8:30pm. There were lots of people out of their houses visiting with each other or just enjoying the evening by sitting on their stoup.
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 10767575)
Biking in Balto: here's a recent link from the City Paper
http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=20132 You know most of what's in the article but it is a "call to arms" for cyclist. We gotta get more vocal. Great synopsis of the current cycling "environment" in Baltimore and surrounding major cities. |
Damn! The Ramble's gettin' some serious checking out. Over 100 views in less than 24hrs.
:thumb: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/...b8c6bea5ce.jpg How many of these people should I expect for the January 2011 ride? ;) |
A newbie here. Been riding for a little over a month now - Live in Bethesda, so I've mainly done Beach Drive and Capital Crescent. Any other biker friendly routes that's readily accessible, possibly in DC after I get off of CCT? Thanks.
-Jon |
A newbie here. Been riding for a little over a month now - Live in Bethesda, so I've mainly done Beach Drive and Capital Crescent. Any other biker friendly routes that's readily accessible, possibly in DC after I get off of CCT? Thanks.
-Jon |
@BC You can use one tablet in each bottle if you want, it depends on your need. A lot of our guys use one bottle of NUUN and one plain in their cages.
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