Josh-That sucks, we've all bonked, easy to do. I'm probably like you in that I don't really get hungry while riding. I go right from fine to bonk. With that said, I need to eat lots because I'm big, still 198-200 lbs, so I force myself. Yesterday I did 43 miles out around Loch Raven, around 2600' on one Clif bar and half bottle of Gatorade. On the way back down Providence though I lost steam. Beautiful time of year to be riding.

Been doing more running lately though as my time is tight. Did a 5k on Saturday to set a benchmark, way harder for me than cycling, HR right up into low 170s and pretty much stayed there for the 30 minutes it took me to complete.

GB-let me know when your next century is. I'm marking my calendar for a DC rand ride out of Woodbine in mid December.

Great reports guys! Thanks for sharing. Does the bagel shop on Patrick deliver/ship?

Anway, the ride out of Williamsport was geat. I don't have a BiM recording because I couldn't get a GPS signal at the ride start... sux! :cry:

Crista & Chuck were on a tandem, Nick and Jan were on another tandem. Then there was Maile, Paul, Mike, Neil, and me.

The first few miles, I took it easy, riding with Maile for awhile as we chatted, catching up with the goings-on in our lives. After a while, though, I could no longer ride her pace, especially as slow as she was going up the hills, so I caught on to Chuck and Crista's wheel. I followed them up to Paul. Paul and Neil had taken a flyer off of the front from the start, but Paul fell back--Neil was still up the road and still within sight.

At one point, Paul shot off of the front as if he would bridge back up to Neil, but he sat up. A few minutes later, I decided to "attack" catching on to Paul's wheel, making a definitive pass, and pushed to catch Neil. It took about 15-20 minutes before I finally caught up with him.

Neil and I rode the rest of the way to the one and only stop in the first 54 miles of the ride--at the Panorama at the Peak Restaurant in Berkeley Springs. We had to work for our lunch--it was a long grinding climb to the top of the ridge to the restaurant.

Lunch at the restaurant was great. Being hungry helped. They had some great portobella mushroom recipes--I had a burger, though.

After lunch, we headed back through Berkeley Springs. There's the descent back into town followed by a climb back out.

Great scenery on the ride, but at first there was so much fog we couldn't see much of anything. Once the fog burned off, some fantastic vista were visible. After lunch was no exception. Maile and Jan took pictures of the ride.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcn7/se...08733820/show/ <---Maile's photo set - Pilgrimage to Prospect Peak Century (updated 10/28/2008)

All in all, it was a great ride; a brand new ride with over 6,000ft of climbing--Chuck had 6,500ft and I had 6,200ft on our computers, respectively.

I'd definitely do this ride again.

vistas
 

Speaking of vistas. I've been doing some hiking lately, a way of trying to combine my desire for activity with my need to be an active dad. I camped up at Mathews Arm last weekend for two days, beautiful, and chilly, ice on Sunday morning. We've been doing tiny sections of the AT. This shot was from Stony Man, I counted fifty people on that clif that day, kills the vibe of a nice quiet walk in the woods. Only saw maybe four cyclists on the drive, good thing as it was crazy crowded. I rode it once with my friend Bennett from Swift Run to Thornton. Talk about constant hills., though I hear the Blue Ridge Parkway is a bit more extreme.

Great report Racer. One of these days I'll actually meet you, pub run perhaps. With all your riding have you ever considered any of the ultra cycling events? Adirondack 504, RAAM, etc?

Thanks, regarding the report.

No, I haven't thought about any "ultra-endurance" events. The folks at DC Rand are trying to get me to commit to something as easy as a brevet, but since I'm not sure if I'll be racing again this coming year, I hesitate to give them commitments. Maile's working on me though. She'd like a brevet partner...and she wants me :innocent: ...for a brevet partner.

I'd def. read that report. Gotta get in more DCRand rides. Great people and beautiful rides. The only thing I don't like is the long drives out to the starts. Then again, I think NoRacer owes me one.

HC, (cool hiking pics BTW) the only long ride I've got planned is the BBC ride Barry and I are doing on Nov 16th, but if you wanna hook up for a DCRand ride in Dec that'd be great. I bet we could easily drag NoRacer into the mix. Or, more easily, let's hit the road for a shorter ride some monday.

Love reading the weekend ride reports here.

Sounds like Maile would be a bit slow for you. though she's got the miles. If I can lose the weight then I hope to actually dip my toe into the racing thing spring 09. The brevet's aren't really races, just have to meet the cut off times, which seem to be pretty generous.

Yes, Bob, I do owe you one.

Ok, folks, I placed a slideshow link to Maile's pix in my ride report, if you are interested in seeing them.

Also, I need to apologize for the predominance of too many pix of my butt. I'll need to speak to the woman about that. :rolleyes:

Looks like everyone had lots of biking this weekend. I rode the W. MD trail w/ my wife. I figured the trees would be great. Some were nice but most were drab. Traffic also sucked(major backup on I-70). The trail itself was really nice and weather perfect.
josh: bummer about the boink. I know the feeling. I looked at your food, that's what I eat when I don't do anything. You really need to eat a lot more. When I ride long distances I am a big fan of steel cut oats for breakfast. A long slow burn. Another great food is hummus, easy to digest. Save the Gu for late in the ride as you near boinking. Gu will mess w/ your stomach, so will power and cliff bars. Eating while you ride is tough. I often don't feel hungry on long rides. I was told(by ultra long distance cyclits) you should "real" food every hour.
You rode on I-70:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: WTF!
NR: Williamsport ride, did you guys eat at Roses cafe in town? Great little place w/ an excellent owner/cook/hostess. Riding if fog:eek: You rode on Sat, with the rain?? That was a nasty day.

HC: nice pixs. Any rock climbers there? Have you taken your kids up Old Rag, my favorite hiking in the area. Sucks on the weekends though...to many folks. Are you riding on the pub ride?

That is exactly how I felt this wknd riding out to Hancock. Too many car miles. It does let you ride different areas.

True, that. It becomes a survival thing when the rides start getting so long that sleep deprivation is added to the mix (a la, Paris-Brest-Paris).

Hey, Charlie! We did a 10 mile stretch of the W. MD trail on the way back to Williamsport yesterday. This picture of Crista and Chuck is at a trailhead:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/...7b14a9.jpg?v=0

No, I didn't ride Saturday.

I'm going to try and do the pub ride. The Sunday guys that I ride with may be doing a ride down on the Mt. Vernon trail in DC. I would however like to meet some of you forum folks.

Didn't do Old Rag. My youngest is four and I carry him on my shoulders a bit, so we keep distances short and elevations reasonable. I carried him a good way up from Dark Hollows Falls, good workout. Enough non bike talk.

Yah, not sure how I would do without the sleep, though I would like to do PBP in 2011. I haven't done a 200 k yet so I'll start with that. I read about these guys that set track records, like five days without sleep at avh 21 mph. Last month's Bicycling had a guy who set the indoor stationary bike record, a whole week on the bike without sleep:cry:

NoRacer's ride to OC is a 300K. 13hrs at 14.4 ave (his rate)
400K could be ridden in 20hrs. (14mph ave with 45min rest/100k)
600k would be if NoRacer ate a few pizzas in OC, got a few hours sleep and then headed home.

I guess any of this stuff can be completed in 5hrs/100k. Harry, I'm in for PBP 2011
This week, however, I'm in intense training for the brew pub tour. :lol:

Five hours? I'm talking five days, I could never do it. Check out AdventureCorps.com, they run the Furnace Creek 508, that's 508 miles in the desert. I did their camp last year, part anyway as I had the flu and was just not up to consecutive grueling days, but the riding I did do was beautiful. They also do two centuries and double centuries every year out there in Death Valley. I'm tempted to go back out there in February and do the whole camp this time, but there's also this ride that goes around Puerto Rico. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmrf8tt2Xk
I think I do more web surfing about all this stuff than actually seriously thinking about doing it. The Adirondack 540 might be in my future if I can get my ass on the saddle a bit more. That's a RAMM qualifying event.
Might have to do a bit of brew pub training tonight as well. Okay, so PBP 2011 is on the calendar.
The DC Rand ride is December 13 out of Woodbine,MD, not too far out on 70.

adventurecorps.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmrf8tt2Xk

And, that was with ~20 pounds of pack on my back! Thanks to my teammate, Mark who happened to be visiting OC and who relieved me of that backpack, I was able to do ~17 mph on the way home. :D

Great to hear you're in for the pub ride. A 4 YO on old Rag could be tough.

Keep working that arm and be careful not to injure your elbow.

All of this talk about long distance cycling makes me remember back a few years when I road the C&O in a day. I too had dreams of the PBP. Well that ride ended those dreams. I was one hurting old man. most of the pain were minor irritations that slowly grew larger, further into the ride. The 2 biggest problems were my neck and stomach. I, like Josh, ate a lot of cliff bars and gu in the second half of the ride. Major mistake. I ate well for the first half of the ride and felt great. My neck was so friggin sore I could barely hold it up near the end. My legs felt great through the entire ride. I can't imagine riding 300-400 miles let alone 1200:cry: I believe many of the ultra long distance riders sleep in ditches for an hour or 2 when they can.

NR: Didn't see you on the W.MD. trail. I did see a few tandems. What time were y'all riding. I didn't make it to the eastern end of it though. Rode the other end.

Brew Pub Ride
 

Okay, GB, can you post the info on the Brew Pub ride one more time? can't find that post.
Time?-I think you said Druid Park Conservatory.

Janet Goldstein has a ride on Saturday that looks good, though not sure I would be able to disappear both days. That Chesapeake Beach run is beautiful.

Baltimore Brew Pub Bike Tour
Sunday Nov 2nd
10:15AM meet up at Druid Hill Conservatory- http://tinyurl.com/brewpubstart
10:30AM push off (15mi)
11:30AM 1st drinks at Ellicott Mills
12:30PM push off (13mi)
1:30PM 2nd drink at Charlie's
2:45PM push off (9mi)
3:30PM 3rd drinks at DuClaw
4:30PM push off (6mi)
5:00PM back to Druid Hill
route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/213201

How many you have going? I think I'm in.

I'm planning on being there. It's just a matter of whether I'll be riding to the zoo or driving. If I drive, I'll have to go all of the way back--riding I could leave from the Fells Point area instead.

I'll be there. I am also uncertain as to whether I'll drive or bike to the start. I want to bike but might not.

Max: What are your plans for this event? Do you want to bike down together?

I'm obviously in and I'll likely come with a buddy from work who is a rider and brewer.

We need help with the Baltimore City bike map in particular the south east quadrant of the City (angelo, noracer, others?)

If you can please review and send me or One Less Car feedback, TIA
http://www.z2systems.com/np/viewDocu...1d3ee4e8090005

I got this from Angelo many months ago. http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/montebello-canton
It was for people coming from Herring Run/Montebello to Canton. His road advice is excellent especially in regards to traffic and criminals. Charlie

I have always like riding Keswick from Wyman park to Wyndhurst.
I would connect Dukeland to Druid Park via Liberty. I know it sucks but it's short and the only way.

Barry, I downloaded the current map. What is it that they want? Roads that I travel? Roads that I am comfortable on? Roads that I feel safe on?

There seem to be many roads that I have no problem riding on (i.e., Lombard St and Pratt St west of Patterson Park, Patterson Park Ave to Eastern Ave following Eastern Ave all of the way into Essex, Dundalk Ave, Odonnell St, etc.)

There are many roads that I ride on that an inexperienced cyclists will not feel comfortable or safe on. So, who is the "target audience" for this map?

I think the best term for what we are looking for is "routes commonly used by bicyclists" or possibly routes that are better then the surrounding roads. Ideally we want a network of roads that a moderately experienced bicyclists will feel comfortable on most of the time.

Edit:Occasional "incentive" training areas that can't be helped are allowed. :innocent: