DMC707

Asking for a cheapskate friend of mine who is always trying to get something for nothing ---- Is $1900 an agreeable price for 7 year old Stumpy if it passes the eye test in person? (Its local enough that an inspection is a possibility )

I know the things were fairly high dollar new , (Around 6k I thought ) - but do they retain any residual value over that many years?

My buddy asked for my opinion on it but I told him I had no clue as I typically ride smaller brand stuff (Yeti, Santa Cruz etc ) and have no clue of the value of a mass market Specialized

----- Were it me, there's no way in he--- I would pay close to 2k for a 7 year old machine, i'd rather put that cash towards something a bit more current , --- but like I mentioned, this is a guy who is always seemingly trying to get a bargain.




2010 Specialized Mountain Bike s Works Stumpjumper Carbon 29er 19 inch Frame | eBay

Wingsprint

I agree with you, there is no way I would spend that much on that bike.

I might offer $800 to a grand at the most...

Kindaslow

Under $1000, unless it is pristine (and only because it is an Sworks).

FrozenK

Bicyclebluebook, which in my opinion tends to low ball prices, says $1900 for that bike in "good condition" and over 2 grand in excellent condition. $1900 seems fair to me.

It may be six years old, but it has really good components and it is still relevant for what it is: a crosscountry race hardtail.

Wingsprint

New, this was a very limited use bike. Basically hardcore XC racing only. For other uses, this is not a very good choice in a hard tail. Times have changed. This bike has a short travel fork, a very steep head angle, a low BB, 2x10 drive train and a frame that is compliant as a brick.

Its just not worth $1900 anymore.

Kindaslow

I worked at a pawn shop through grad school and learned a simple lesson. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. There is a tiny group of Sworks lovers that might pay the $1900, but it will only be by chance one of them is in his area and sees the bike is for sale. Otherwise, I do not think it will break $1000 for a sale price.

FrozenK

Just because it isn't the kind of bike you like to ride it doesn't mean it is obsolete. The market for race hardtails -steep head angle, 100mm fork, stiff frame- is still healthy. And 2x10 isn't obsolete either.

I sold my Kona King Kahuna (carbon, 100mm fork, 2x10) for not much less than the ask on that Specialized this spring. And while mine was a little newer it also had lower spec parts. Look at similar bikes going on eBay right now. $1900 is fair for that bike. Whether that is a bike you'd buy or not isn't the point.

Wingsprint

I never said the bike was obsolete... My point was... this is a limited use 7 year old bike that is overpriced.

The OP stated- "Asking for a cheapskate friend of mine who is always trying to get something for nothing" so I gave an opinion assuming his friend is bargain shopper looking for an all around MTB, not an XC racer.

If the friend is a frugal XC racer, I would recommend paying no more than a grand for that bike.

FrozenK

If his friend is a cheapskate then the friend should be looking at $800 bikes. But that still doesn't make this a $1000 bike.

Darth Lefty 

I think you should probably ask on MTBR

Wingsprint

This carbon S-Works is two years newer, basically the same group and has better wheels. Current bid is half the price...

2012 Specialized Stumpjumper 29 s Works | eBay
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Kindaslow

Now, I am curious to watch this auction. It could easily double, with two days left, or it might not. My big question is...why didn't this guy true up the rear before listing it for sale? Makes me wonder about the bike as a whole...

DMC707

Thanks guys --- my buddy went in a different direction - we have another friend who "curbed" a bike pretty hard (hard enough to crack the downtube - ) - so he purchased the build kit from him and is shopping for a decent frame for it

The build kit has decent Stans Wheels, 142 thru axle rear, tapered steerer and all the other modern accoutrements so he has been looking for a suitable frameset for the parts


The guy is cheap but that's due to having a lot of kids --- he has been riding my XTR equipped Yeti 29'er for a few weeks and thus is a bit spoiled to nice equipment -- so he is willing to spend a little bit, but realizes he has to buy used to get something at an XTR or XX1 level on a budget

FrozenK

It has a suspicious rear wheel and it already jumped over a thousand. Look at completed auctions.

Wingsprint

I am not the only one around here who thinks the bike in the original post is priced too high...

Wingsprint

Cool!

There are lots of great deals on lightly used frames out there.

FrozenK

And now that bike you linked on eBay has hit $2150. It seems like you were dead wrong on the value assessment of that bike in the OP, who may have missed on a good deal thanks to you.

Wingsprint

Wow...

The newer bike with better parts has gone up $100 more that the bike in the OP.. So what? If someone is willing to pay that much (too much), more power to the seller.

There are no bids on the old bike in the OP..

Did you even bother to read why the OP's friend did not buy the S-Works bike in the OP?

My posts in this thread were an honest attempt to assist the OP by sharing what I would pay for the bike. Others have posted the same opinions. Based on the PM's I have received, people agree the bike is worth no more than $1000.

So here is how I see it. You have quoted a "value" from the Bicycle Blue Book (which is almost never right). I posted a different opinion on what the OP should pay and you attempted to engage me in a flame war.

There is a thread in another section of this site discussing why traffic on forums is down. Here is a good example of why many people no longer participate in forums.

Do everyone else a favor and don't bother responding because they deserve better and in turn, I will return that favor by never responding to anything you post on this site again.

I don't have the time for this.

DMC707

Epilogue:

My bud is buying an alloy Niner hardtail frame to go with his basket 'o parts -- it is a reasonably current machine as it has the 142 rear spacing

Basically I told him I was Switzerland on the Specialized -- I wouldn't pay close to 2k, but then again, i'm a full suspension guy, so I wouldn't even look twice at it unless it was a screaming bargain

$1900 may or may not be ok, --- but I think he's going to be into this Niner build for around $1200 when its built and tuned up

It wont be as light, but I would think Niner has the weight of a hardtail dialed down as far as they can go for aluminum

--- Regardless, I cant wait to take it for a test ride when its done- I haven't ridden a hardtail in quite some time

A few years back, I helped him find a nice used Titus Racer X with a mix of Shimano XT and SRAM X0 parts on it -- its a 26'er and the guy thinks he needs a rigid 29'er to make the stopwatch happy -- oh well - some people are like that

FrozenK

Yes, this is a fine example of why traffic is down: idiots like you that have no ****ing clue what they are talking about pretending to be experts and giving bad advice. Then you try to be cute linking a listing on eBay and when that shows you are wrong you act offended.

alexdi

Much of the value depends on your opinion of the drivetrain. I'm a 1x convert, so the 2-ring setup here is automatically a nonstarter. The frame, wheels, fork, and ancillary drivetrain bits are solid (assuming they're not damaged; a big assumption). The seat, post, pedals, tires, and brakes to a lesser extent, not so much.

The thing is, it's gotten really cheap to make a race hardtail. You can easily go sub-21 lbs for under $2000, new, with generic carbon components and a SRAM 1X drivetrain. This S-works is essentially a name paired to old parts and a frame that's probably 50g lighter.

Canker

Oh come on. We all know a carbon Titus racer x with XTR bits is only worth $20. It is a crappy 26er with XC geometry after all.

Wingsprint

Actually traffic is down because of classless morons like you.

I left this forum last summer but dropped by to respond to your incivility.

Do you have nothing better in to do in your life than sit on the internet an find ways to insult people who are expressing their thoughts and opinions? I feel sorry for you.

Are you an expert? Ha. Looking at your posts I would say you are not a person I would take any advice from. On anything.

Your behavior is exactly why forum participation is down all over. Its the same contagion of obnoxiousness that has taken over this country.

I closing, you and people like you are why I left this forum. Its all good.. you stay here and continue to win at the internet and I will spend my extra time doing the things I enjoy.

FrozenK

Have you considered getting a life?