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MadMan2k 05-26-05 04:48 PM

The things on the end are called bar ends. They do have a purpose, and they don't affect wheelies much.

Try turning the wheel to the side on purpose and then straightening it out. Maybe you can get a feel for it better that way.

TJH2208 05-26-05 05:06 PM

How high should my wheel be up for good riding? does it have to be medium, low or kinda high according to my heavy mountain bike? The question is What height should it be at for it to be able to ride for a long time?

Funkychicken 05-26-05 05:26 PM

apparently advanced ways to correct side balance is to turn the handlebar the oppoiste direction of the imbalance, or to stick out a foot

try a tutorial here follow the nav bar to his tips on wheelies.

TJH2208 05-26-05 07:09 PM

I was trying some today and rode it 3 feet which a slight improvement because i was leaning back really far. Do you guys ride your wheelie leaning back alot so your almost slipping off? Sometimes I lean back a little too far but the bike doesnt flip over i just slip off the bike and it leaves me. But I have grasp of it when I slip off. It feels kinda weird when you are leaning back that far.

RotorHead 05-26-05 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by TJH2208
It feels kinda weird when you are leaning back that far.

Yes it does, but you get used to it.
Remember to keep your arms straight, and don't pull the handlebars towards you. That only makes it harder.

Funkychicken 05-26-05 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by TJH2208
Sometimes I lean back a little too far but the bike doesnt flip over i just slip off the bike and it leaves me. But I have grasp of it when I slip off.

Happens to me all the time. my philosophy is that i have to keep slipping off until i learn to correct that balance. It'll come.

ridehard 05-26-05 07:53 PM

If you are leaning far enough back that you are slipping off, try to use your back brake. It should bring your front end right back down. I can pull 12 o'clocks on my bike without falling because if you time your braking right it will bring you right back down.

TJH2208 05-26-05 08:14 PM

Im starting to ride my bothers small mountain bike that has excellent back brakes but I'm standing up. Sometimes I sit down. The thing is, I cant reach my brakes, I put them as close as I could to me and still if one finger loses grip while in the air I'm off balance and flopping around everywhere and a second later I always come back down to the ground no matter how hard I try to straiten up and pull up again. Im starting to think now that brakes are very important for begginers. But im pulling so hard up with my arms i cant reach the brake.

This is pissing me off!!!!! Ive been wasting all my spare time for 4 months trying to do this annoying trick and wondering is it worth it? I love riding bikes but this is really hard!! I'm not saying I'm going to give this trick up but its stressing me out because i guess i just dont get it. I try to follow instructions though.

I can do a 6" bunnyhop, Endo, And do some tricks on my friends dirt jumps pretty well but the only thing i dont get is the wheelie.

BlkHawkDown 05-26-05 08:37 PM

Here Are pictures: (click Here are all the pictures)
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joelsp 05-26-05 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by TJH2208
Yes I flip back and land on my feet all the time, I am wondering two things. Do the useless hook looking things on the end of the handlebars on my mountain bike have any purpose, and do they make your bike heavier to lift up a wheelie? and how do you control the sideway balance PLEASE. If i had handlebars that were glued strait and couldnt be turned I would wheelie forever but the bike always lean to the side and I know people say dont let it lean but I cant help it, it just leans by itself I guess. Probly not that, I just dont know how to control it.

lol, I'm guessing the useless hook looking things are bar-ends, and those shouldn't weigh down your front end to the point where you can't wheelie. They are used mainly I believe for climbing. As for side to side balance, all I can think of is make sure you pull up equally with both hands, and maintain your speed.

Brian 05-27-05 01:18 AM

Again, it's about balance. The guy in the photo has his back straight, and is balancing on the rear wheel while holding up the front wheel. You'll need that kind of balance to hold a good manual too. For side to side balance, practice trackstands.

TJH2208 05-27-05 04:30 AM

trackstands? whats that, Sorry I never race. All I do is ride around with my friends. lol

Brian 05-27-05 04:42 AM

When you get to a stop light, do you put your feet down? Stop your bike (either with your brake, or just do this on flat ground) and keep it upright without pedalling. You've got to shift your weight around and maybe give your bars a twist in either direction. Good practice for balance.

TJH2208 05-27-05 09:06 AM

Is there any tips you have on how to relax your arms when the front wheel is up, because when i try to relax, the front wheel falls down. Do I have to lean back more? Or keep my back curved or strait?

cryptid01 05-27-05 10:39 AM

BlkHwkDwn has good form. In the next to last picture, see how his right foot is rotating off the pedal? He's shifting weight to maintain balance.

MadMan2k 05-27-05 10:42 AM

Can you get a video clip of you doing a wheelie? It might help a bit...

http://jonbuder.com/videos/Biking.wmv - near the end are some examples of UNsuccessful wheelies. That was back when I got the bike, I just basically pedalled hard and hoped for the best.

Really helps to lean back far. In fact, kinda throw your weight back if possible, quickly. Try standing up on the pedals and see how far you can pop the front wheel up. If you can get the front wheel all the way up and jump back off from a standstill, I don't get what the problem with wheelies is.

TJH2208 05-27-05 01:04 PM

You know that last wheelie you did? I kinda do something like that. Dang my arms are sore right now from doing wheelies lol.

TJH2208 05-27-05 01:05 PM

I have a Digital Camera video of me doing a wheelie. How do i send it to you guys?

hooligan 05-27-05 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dirtbike
EXACTLY!!! The people who are starting out in 1-3 arent going anywhere. I use a 38t ring with gears 4-6 in back. 11-34 cassette. Starting out in a 22t ring is bad.

You have to pedal and throw yourself back in your seat. If im going too fast I lean back and brake at the same time - kinda like a unicycle. When Im falling back I feather the rear brake, and when Im falling forward, I pedal faster obviously.

I told madman that 50 feet was quite a bit for THAT ratio dude.

TJH2208 05-27-05 08:13 PM

Hey I was trying some wheelies today and I was going extremely fast to keep it up. Is that normal for a newbie wheelier? Why is it that if I lose one finger of grip (to press the back brake), the wheel goes down but I'm not pressing the brake, I just lose strength even when I lose one finger of grip. Is there any way I can maintain the wheelie even if I lose my middle finger's grip on one hand? HOW?

ridehard 05-27-05 09:07 PM

What you are doing is "pedaling out" You are not doing a ballance wheelie, you are just keeping your front end in the air by pedaling faster and faster. You have to go back a bit more, and try to slow yourself down. And yes using your legs by sticking them out one way or another will help your side to side balance while wheelying.
Hey BIKHawkDown, can you go around corners like the one in your first picture there? I have those priity much perfected now. What is really getting to me though is that I have been starting a wheely completely on the one side of the the road, and by meaning over I can come so close to turning a full 180 degrees and going back the other way (all while staying on the road, about the same size as Hawk's there) and I can never get it. I come soooooooo close I have gotten it to where I have done a full 180, and I my front tire is brought down by me hitting the curb on the other side of the road.

Brad01 05-27-05 09:31 PM

'Hawk, Nice work.
How long have you been practicing??

TJH2208 05-28-05 09:52 AM

Does this make sense? The farther you lean back= the less high the front wheel has to be, more control. But ride the front wheel higher= less control and you dont have to lean back as far?

MadMan2k 05-28-05 10:53 AM

I'd think it'd have to be higher up if you leaned back, so you could balance better...

TJH2208 05-28-05 11:52 AM

I was trying a stand up wheelie on my bros much smaller Walmart mountain bike. A Mako or whatever. Is it easier to stand up on a small bike like that, because I still have to hold that bikes front tire up. When doing stand up wheelies, is it harder to keep the wheel up or can you relax your arms if you get into perfect balance. I always lose balance when I lean back far when standing up on a mountain bike.


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