The heavy arsed steel MTB thread
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lol The bikes are in the Philippines so for 70 pesos (about a $1.75) I have my bikes washed and meticulously detailed immediately after each ride - a necessity since my bikes live with me inside my Condo.
I am merely a roadie and low speed trail rider, nothing technical or high speed. As a kid from the late 60s, I prefer the looks and ride of steel bikes. Of my eight bikes, 5 are steel, 2 CF and one Ti/CF. I really like the ride characteristics, built quality and aesthetics of both, but probably favor the Marin 27.5 +, it just has a certain je ne sais quois. Thinking about converting the Krampus to a SS and putting narrower road tires on her.
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Santa Cruz Tallboy, ExLarge. 32 pounds of indestructable.
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Bikes: 82 Trek 710, 90 Trek 750, 86 Vitus, Nishiki Cervino, 1989 Bianchi CdI, 2 Nashbars, an Italian Steel MTB, Sears Spaceliner, and a 74 Schwinn Speedster. I also manage a fleet of Volcanic Patrol bikes, 83 of them.
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Not sure of the manufacturer, got this from eBay. It came bare steel, the bottom bracket is threaded for Italian bottom brackets. I had it powder coated candy orange.
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Still heavy for what it was. Could easily have been several pounds lighter with a different frame.
Don’t get me wrong I love Surlys. I own two of them (Karate Monkey and Wednesday), but the frames are heavy, even for steel.
Don’t get me wrong I love Surlys. I own two of them (Karate Monkey and Wednesday), but the frames are heavy, even for steel.
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Don't have gizmos or account to post pics, but I still have my '96 framed GT Timberline-4130 chromoly with Reynolds 525 seattube. Started off as a 94-the frame was a replacement for one I cracked a weld on. Doesn't resemble the original bike much--now has 3x8 Shimano drivetrain & shifters, better hubs and rims, Manitou Axel fork (it was good in it's day-still works fine!), Avid V-brakes and levers. Wt= 30lbs. Still gets me through the woods and back, as it always has. Kind of a deep sky blue--beautiful bike-gets lots of compliments.
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Yeah it was a single speed setup. Any recommendation for a lighter frame?
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There is a misconception that because a bike is steel it's going to be heavy. There are plenty of new aluminum comfort and mountian bikes that weigh 30+ lbs. Which is why I wouldn't buy a bike based on the frame or fork material alone. The overall design including the geometry IMO are far more important.
Indeed, Steel might very well have an advantage in terms of compliance and toughness. Especially with entry level to average priced bikes. Which improves both comfort and speed. I'm sure we can and do build aluminum frames that are compliant too, But it may take more engineering experience and cost to manufacture.
Indeed, Steel might very well have an advantage in terms of compliance and toughness. Especially with entry level to average priced bikes. Which improves both comfort and speed. I'm sure we can and do build aluminum frames that are compliant too, But it may take more engineering experience and cost to manufacture.
Heavy aluminum bikes and light steel bikes can find their own thread
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I didn't mean derail this thread. I just wanted to point out that there are heavy aluminum bikes too.
My old steel mountain bike was 35 lbs and not very comfortable. It was a cheap Canadian Tire bike. Darn thing really didn't like to go fast...even downhill.
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Heavy aluminum bikes might actually make it feel better about itself.
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[MENTION=334066]eshew[/MENTION], I just noticed your Ritchey has very similar welding as an old RD Coyote I have. The lugged seat tube and fillet brazed headtube is a really nice touch. Only difference can see is the RD I have has lugged drop outs like the old 3Rensho bikes. Can you snap a few close ups of the BB? What an awesome looking bike!








