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CodyDog 10-14-19 09:20 AM

Who's using Platform/Flat pedals?
 
I've always used clipless pedals for mountain biking and gravel riding. I'm currently using CrankCandy's on my Gravel bike. I just got a full suspension MTB and will be riding easy to difficult trails.

I noticed a lot of mountain bikers (Salida, Co area) are using platform/flat pedals. This includes a lot of experience riders at the LBS (Subculture Cyclery).

Up to now, I was under the impression that all experienced riders rode with clipless. Now I'm considering trying platforms/flats (Precision Innovations Catalyst).

Who's using platform/flat for mountain biking and why?

mrv 10-14-19 09:37 AM

who: me. sometimes. my cross bike has clipless (click-in whatever CrankBros on it)
why: well I didn't realize how much i like riding trails with flat pedals until I did it - your foot can be put down quickly without having to rotate it first. which is nice if you're on slow technical stuff - or you suck at mountain biking, like i do.
also, if you suck at MTBing like I do - it's easier to hop on and off to lift you're bike over logs and stuff - because you can't ride over them like a proper MTB'er. so that's nice.

major draw back - if you suck like i do at down hills - you could bounce off the pedals and not land on them again. that's just painful all over to think about. I kind of hold on to the seat with my thighs and don't go so fast on down hills.
I have come to full acceptance that I suck at trail riding, and just treat it as a nice slow ride in the woods - a Rivendell Philosophy to riding in the woods. Works great because the $50 CraigsList bike picture below is perfect for that kind of thing.

ciao.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c80b819df1.png

CodyDog 10-14-19 10:39 AM

mrv:

Thanks for the input. Nice looking bike you have.

Stormsedge 10-14-19 11:42 AM

I'm using Catalyst pedals on my FS KHS. I like them a lot better than my old eggbeaters. Won't ever go back and plan on putting a set on my hybrid as well.

https://pedalinginnovations.com/

jrhoneOC 10-14-19 12:03 PM

Used to use clip ins many years ago. Now that i am getting back into biking i am enjoying the platforms because i was never 100% comfortable with the clipless.

I do miss the ability to pull up on the up stroke when climbing. So its a tradeoff for me. Comfort and maneuverability vs pedaling efficiency.

hig4s 10-14-19 12:15 PM

I ride only flats.

spinconn 10-14-19 06:38 PM

I wouldn't ride my road bike without clipless, and I would never use clipless on my MTB. I love my flat pedals on my mountain bike. I put my foot down all the time off road even without counting the times I fall trying dumb stuff. But then I don't have steep downhill sections where I live.

grubetown 10-15-19 08:07 AM

I switched to flats for mountain biking about four years ago and haven’t looked back. If the technique is there, the two main arguments for not using flats, climbing and “losing” the pedals, become a non-issue.

CodyDog 10-15-19 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by grubetown (Post 21164502)
I switched to flats for mountain biking about four years ago and haven’t looked back. If the technique is there, the two main arguments for not using flats, climbing and “losing” the pedals, become a non-issue.

Agreed!

CodyDog 10-15-19 09:18 AM

I chose to go with the Pedaling Innovation Catalyst pedals. Two rides and so far so good.

https://i.imgur.com/dPl2191.jpg

hig4s 10-16-19 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by CodyDog (Post 21164643)
I chose to go with the Pedaling Innovation Catalyst pedals. Two rides and so far so good.

https://i.imgur.com/dPl2191.jpg

Whoa, those aren't flat pedals, those are flat platforms !!!

I.B.Roots 10-16-19 02:15 PM

I'm riding platforms on all my bikes. Had clipless years ago and IMO they suck. Platforms now are way aggressive and when paired with Stealth Rubber, bite nicely. I don't get any help at the top of my crank rotation but they help for about 3/4 of the rotation.

OldsCOOL 10-16-19 06:41 PM

I use era flat pedals with toe clips/straps on my ‘97 Trek 7000. Good control over rough sections.

rumrunn6 10-21-19 01:29 PM

fwiw - I like modified toe cages w/o straps. I just snap off the top & file them smooth. feels like just the right amount of foot retention, for me. easy on & easy off (the road bike as cleated pedals/shoes)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea3649904f.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e3949e43df.jpg

Kapusta 10-21-19 07:14 PM

Clipless is my default for mtb.

I ride flats when it gets cold out because my clip-less shoes get really cold over the cleat. Also ride flats on occasion just for something different.

But when I want to bring my A game, its clip-less.

pickettt 10-21-19 08:11 PM

My son is using Cromag Radar flats on both his road and mountain bikes because they don't make clipless compatible shoes in his size. Almost.......almost.

DeadGrandpa 10-21-19 08:18 PM

I like flat pedals for mtb and gravel. Toe clips and straps for pavement. If I have to hike-a-bike I have the correct shoes for walking, and the same shoes for pavement riding works well for me.

mherke 10-21-19 10:14 PM

Flat pedals
 
I used to use clipless on my mountain bike trips, but found I'd shy away from technical terrain from fear I wouldn't clip out in time if I failed. Now I only ride with flats and my confidence level has really improved over the technical terrain. I haven't had any issues with slipping off of the pedals. I'd recommend getting pedals with the adjustable pins and a good flat pair of shoes.

jrhoneOC 10-21-19 11:01 PM

Just got a set of Race Face Chesters....LOVE them.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4e912a796.jpeg

2skies 10-22-19 08:53 PM

I like the idea of clipless, but I'm not that good enough rider yet to warrant them. I don't want to develop bad habits (ie clip-hopping) and I figure I'll know when I need to consider them. Right now, I just need to learn technique and just ride, ride, ride! I like a nice cushy pedal - coming from comfort and hybrid bikes.

bianchi4harley 11-04-19 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by CodyDog (Post 21163097)
I've always used clipless pedals for mountain biking and gravel riding. I'm currently using CrankCandy's on my Gravel bike. I just got a full suspension MTB and will be riding easy to difficult trails.

I noticed a lot of mountain bikers (Salida, Co area) are using platform/flat pedals. This includes a lot of experience riders at the LBS (Subculture Cyclery).

Up to now, I was under the impression that all experienced riders rode with clipless. Now I'm considering trying platforms/flats (Precision Innovations Catalyst).

Who's using platform/flat for mountain biking and why?

I ride mainly with clipless and find that for technical trails in Pacific NW they help keep your feet securely on the pedals on those slippery trails with cross logs and especially going up steep hills.
However, I did switch to flats for a while when riding high skinny stunts and dropping big air jumps and at the bike park at Whis. Just wanted the flexibility of being able to release and throw a leg out when needed. Now I'm not riding the stunts anymore.... just the fast flow trails.... and I'm back to clipless.

Wileyrat 11-04-19 08:03 PM

I just put a cheap pair of Rockbros flats on my new Marin, and I wish I would've gone this way a while ago.

prj71 11-06-19 09:24 AM

If any platform pedalers are interested PM me. I have a pair of 5-10 Freerider High size 10.5 for sale. $60

https://www.amazon.com/Five-Ten-Free.../dp/B00U9LCNN2

JayVee 11-16-19 08:37 PM

I prefer flats for off-road riding.

rumrunn6 11-16-19 08:50 PM

soon it will be time for winter boots. 29 degrees is the lower limit I think for these light hikers, even w/ chemical warming packs inside

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cf2ccff85e.jpg

Jeff of Vt 11-18-19 09:01 AM

I'm officially a very recent flat pedal convert. I've been using clipless for years and before than only used old school touring and ubiquitous cheap slick all-plastic pedals before then.

Trying these new screw-cleat platforms feels like discovering a secret that has long been kept from me. They're every bit as secure as clipless and using these pedals is breaking me of a lot of bad habits instilled in me by clipless. It's really nice being able to wear any footwear I desire and be able to throw my foot out without having to fight to get back in while climbing rough terrain.

Contrary to my preconceived notions, I will not need any clips or straps with these pedals. The grip is that good. I do not see myself going back to clipless even when the weather warms up.

Chester 11-20-19 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 21173528)
fwiw - I like modified toe cages w/o straps. I just snap off the top & file them smooth. feels like just the right amount of foot retention, for me. easy on & easy off (the road bike as cleated pedals/shoes)

Just in case you're not aware of their existence and you'd prefer them, or won't have an old pair of clips lying around to modify in the future: there are "half clips" that are designed to just provide the coverage like your modified full clips, also without straps, but generally built up a bit beefier to be more resistant to bending.

I use a pair of MKS steel half clips on a commuter bike that I like because it allows me to wear much larger shoes (i.e. boots) without having to adjust straps but still have quite a bit of clip retention.

rumrunn6 11-21-19 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Chester (Post 21217163)
Just in case you're not aware of their existence and you'd prefer them, or won't have an old pair of clips lying around to modify in the future: there are "half clips" that are designed to just provide the coverage like your modified full clips, also without straps, but generally built up a bit beefier to be more resistant to bending.I use a pair of MKS steel half clips on a commuter bike that I like because it allows me to wear much larger shoes (i.e. boots) without having to adjust straps but still have quite a bit of clip retention.

thank you! I've tried the plastic 1/2 clips but they were too small & tight. after I made mine I found out about the ones you use. they are nice indeed! I'd still add my DIY extensions & pedal extenders (cuz I like big winter boots), which I've shown in other threads. if I remember, I'll come back & show what I mean. you might like to do the same for the winter

oh here we go, see post #3
https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cy...l#post21217321

trailangel 11-21-19 07:42 AM

What a fad. Platforms with those long set-screw allen bolts to grip into your 5Ten faddish shoes. You will end up with holes in the front of your lower legs from those long spikes.
Try best of both worlds. Short spikes, relatively large platform, SPD on the other side for when you get the long stretch of road.
https://www.rei.com/product/116154/s...SABEgJ2CPD_BwE

stormpeakco 11-21-19 08:18 AM

DMRs w/ 5-10s...resulting more rock strikes than w/ the old Crank Bros Candy, but these pedals can take a beating as do the shins (rare occasions, think meat tenderizing) but more confidence = more aggressive riding (knowing a sudden, "hopefully" painless escape plan may be quickly assembled).
Also hike-a-bike sections are much less worrisome (think the sand stone rocks @ Horsethief/Loma-Fruita).


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