Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Mountain Biking
Reload this Page >

Gastro, Maelstrom, Raiyn, LowCel, and all others...

Search
Notices
Mountain Biking Mountain biking is one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Check out this forum to discuss the latest tips, tricks, gear and equipment in the world of mountain biking.

Gastro, Maelstrom, Raiyn, LowCel, and all others...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-28-05 | 08:53 PM
  #26  
LowCel's Avatar
Throw the stick!!!!
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 18,150
Likes: 93
From: Charleston, WV

Bikes: GMC Denali

Hmmm, did I wait too long to be considered fashionably late?

WOW!!!! That bike looks great, I really like the disc brake adaptor. It looks like a very nice build. As for the seat, if ya like it keep it. It's hard to find a comfortable saddle.

To weigh a bike I generally take it to the shop and use the hanging scale. I also use a postal scale that I have sometimes. The old fashioned way of standing on the scale is good enough for a ball park figure though.

Anyway, congrats............now where is the ride report????
__________________
I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.
LowCel is offline  
Reply
Old 11-28-05 | 10:40 PM
  #27  
pinkrobe's Avatar
DNPAIMFB
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,655
Likes: 0
From: Cowtown, AB

Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.

First off, I have to say that is a nice build up. Definitely keep the Control Tech seatpost. That is so cool! So I have to ask, just how much of the brake torque from that rear disc brake is applied to the canti boss? I have seen one with a similar design shear the boss off of a cro-moly xc bike.
pinkrobe is offline  
Reply
Old 11-28-05 | 10:47 PM
  #28  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by LowCel
Hmmm, did I wait too long to be considered fashionably late?

WOW!!!! That bike looks great, I really like the disc brake adaptor. It looks like a very nice build. As for the seat, if ya like it keep it. It's hard to find a comfortable saddle.

To weigh a bike I generally take it to the shop and use the hanging scale. I also use a postal scale that I have sometimes. The old fashioned way of standing on the scale is good enough for a ball park figure though.

Anyway, congrats............now where is the ride report????
thanks!

i will do a ride report and a build list and price and weight as asked previously. if any of you care anyways. i know we all have nice bikes and its probably hard to get thrilled over someone elses ride. hahahha
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-28-05 | 10:58 PM
  #29  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by pinkrobe
First off, I have to say that is a nice build up. Definitely keep the Control Tech seatpost. That is so cool! So I have to ask, just how much of the brake torque from that rear disc brake is applied to the canti boss? I have seen one with a similar design shear the boss off of a cro-moly xc bike.
i am surprised some of you know about the control tech seat post. i thought it might be junk. but gastro seemed to think it was decent as well.

there is one other company i am aware of that uses a similar design. BRAKE THERAPY i think. don't scare me like that! i imagine that it does put torque into that arm. however, i just don't see it shearing the boss off. i have heard of that as well. i asked the guy at WOOdman and of course he said they have not had problems. he did seem sincere.

i do not think brake force alone will do anything. it doesn't take much for the back to just lock up. the only thing i can think of is if you nailed the bracket just right from below and it pushing up and rotating forward snapping the rod.

i admit, its not for everyone. obviously i wish the frame had brackets. think about it though. the same scenario i mentioned above could shear brake tabs off as well.

overall it seems very solid. i am only about 135lbs, so i am not too worried about it. i think it would take a nasty crash or perfect hit for something bad to happen.

i will keep the forum posted should anything bad happen

(sorry that post was a little discombobulated...i am tired )
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-28-05 | 11:25 PM
  #30  
Norcal 29er
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
From: Mendocino Norcal

Bikes: Gary fisher Mt Tam 29er

Okay, I do like your bike, but I have one question. Was this a sentimental thing? Becuase I am sure that for the money you paid you could have gotten somewhat lower cuality parts and gotten a nicer frame. I'm just not sure I understand the logic on this one.


peez
harris
harris is offline  
Reply
Old 11-28-05 | 11:50 PM
  #31  
cryptid01's Avatar
one less horse
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,601
Likes: 2
From: The Hinterlands
Originally Posted by harris
I'm just not sure I understand the logic on this one.

He owned a perfectly good high end bike and added some updated componentry. Sounds pretty logical to me.
cryptid01 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 05:43 AM
  #32  
LowCel's Avatar
Throw the stick!!!!
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 18,150
Likes: 93
From: Charleston, WV

Bikes: GMC Denali

Originally Posted by harris
Okay, I do like your bike, but I have one question. Was this a sentimental thing? Becuase I am sure that for the money you paid you could have gotten somewhat lower cuality parts and gotten a nicer frame. I'm just not sure I understand the logic on this one.


peez
harris
Just because it is an older frame doesn't mean anything. It is still one of the best cross country frames ever made.
__________________
I may be fat but I'm slow enough to make up for it.
LowCel is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 12:08 PM
  #33  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by harris
Okay, I do like your bike, but I have one question. Was this a sentimental thing? Becuase I am sure that for the money you paid you could have gotten somewhat lower cuality parts and gotten a nicer frame. I'm just not sure I understand the logic on this one.


peez
harris
it was sort of sentimental. i mean it started with me just wanting to have disc brakes and snowballed into replacing a bunch of stuff out of necessity for the brakes.

but i think the frame is probably still a good quality frame. i think the homegrowns were supposed to be good. the bike was pretty expensive new in 1995.
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 01:20 PM
  #34  
pinkrobe's Avatar
DNPAIMFB
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,655
Likes: 0
From: Cowtown, AB

Bikes: Titus El Guapo, Misfit diSSent, Cervelo Soloist Carbon, Wabi Lightning, et al.

Originally Posted by mx_599
i am surprised some of you know about the control tech seat post. i thought it might be junk. but gastro seemed to think it was decent as well.

there is one other company i am aware of that uses a similar design. BRAKE THERAPY i think. don't scare me like that! i imagine that it does put torque into that arm. however, i just don't see it shearing the boss off. i have heard of that as well. i asked the guy at WOOdman and of course he said they have not had problems. he did seem sincere.

i do not think brake force alone will do anything. it doesn't take much for the back to just lock up. the only thing i can think of is if you nailed the bracket just right from below and it pushing up and rotating forward snapping the rod.

i admit, its not for everyone. obviously i wish the frame had brackets. think about it though. the same scenario i mentioned above could shear brake tabs off as well.

overall it seems very solid. i am only about 135lbs, so i am not too worried about it. i think it would take a nasty crash or perfect hit for something bad to happen.
The guy I know who sheared his off was about 165, and had the Brake Therapy adaptor. THey use the same basic principle; the adaptor has the potential to rotate around the rear hub [even though it doesn't], allowing the braking forces to be transmitted along the shaft to the brake boss. If it didn't, the whole contraption would spin around the rear hub whenever the brakes were applied. Regardless, at your weight, the rear wheel will skid on dirt long before enough force is being applied to the boss, so I wouldn't worry. I would probably avoid laying down big skids on super-grippy surfaces like slickrock or the like. Watch for cracks on the boss as well. Don't mean to scare you, but this problem can occur, so keep an eye out for it.
pinkrobe is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 01:54 PM
  #35  
klondike300's Avatar
klondike300
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
From: Looking for my lung on Green Mountain or flowing the trails at Port Gamble

Bikes: Cannondale(x3). Synapse, cyclocross and 29er Scalpel

Forget the bike, who's in the avatar?!
klondike300 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 05:10 PM
  #36  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by klondike300
Forget the bike, who's in the avatar?!
hehe...that is the flavor of the month!! i believe it is actress amy acker. its hit or miss with her. some pics she looks stunning and others...

well, i guess it's like that for all of us
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 09:28 PM
  #37  
iamthetas's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 0
From: colonial heights Va

Bikes: Devinci Guzzler, 04 Canadian version

that is a good looking bike. comfort is more important in a seat than looks. if someone doesnt like your seat, they can stay off your bike.

now go out and get it dirty , then take some pics before you clean it and post them. it will look even better with dirt on it
iamthetas is offline  
Reply
Old 11-29-05 | 11:52 PM
  #38  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by iamthetas
that is a good looking bike. comfort is more important in a seat than looks. if someone doesnt like your seat, they can stay off your bike.

now go out and get it dirty , then take some pics before you clean it and post them. it will look even better with dirt on it
i know...now i have to prove its use to you guys! i was considering sloshing around some mud in a bucket and tossing it on the bike

i am adding you to The List of people who said nice things about my bike. i'll probably be checking it twice. good things are sure to come your way...
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-30-05 | 01:29 AM
  #39  
Raiyn's Avatar
I drink your MILKSHAKE
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 15,061
Likes: 3
From: St. Petersburg, FL

Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity

Originally Posted by mx_599
is the seat that bad? it is a selle san marco integra or something. back then i think it was expensive. has seat tech changed that much?

what do you guys suggest for my next seat?
If it works for you who gives a **** what people think? You've got to ride it not them.
Originally Posted by gastro
Yep, it's got a machined rib running up the center of the post. It's worth keeping even if you let these guys talk you into a new seat...
The funny thing is now they've come back to it.
https://www.sdgusa.com/layout.php?m=bike&id=bike
Originally Posted by mx_599
where the heck is RAIYN???

i even posted a new avatar for him!!
Can't a guy take a few days off to recharge his batteries?
Originally Posted by harris
Okay, I do like your bike, but I have one question. Was this a sentimental thing? Becuase I am sure that for the money you paid you could have gotten somewhat lower cuality parts and gotten a nicer frame. I'm just not sure I understand the logic on this one.


peez
harris
The pre-buyout Homegrown was and still to this day IS one of the nicest XC frames ever produced. If I remember correctly he's also the original owner so he knows EXACTLY what it's been through. I and several others have guided mx_599 on this build so if he's good with it so am I
__________________
Raiyn is offline  
Reply
Old 11-30-05 | 04:41 PM
  #40  
swifferman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 0
Just curious, I know the Homegrown is a sweet frame, but what makes it non-susceptible to fatigue like all other aluminum bikes? Unless of course it's steel in which case I explode.
swifferman is offline  
Reply
Old 12-01-05 | 12:32 AM
  #41  
mx_599's Avatar
Thread Starter
Lost in the Black Hills
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,725
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by swifferman
Just curious, I know the Homegrown is a sweet frame, but what makes it non-susceptible to fatigue like all other aluminum bikes? Unless of course it's steel in which case I explode.
oh i think it is like the other Al frames...unless these guys know something else. the only thing i have going for me is that i am the original owner, i weigh about 135 lbs, and its been basically stored. i haven't been able to use it much. or i guess i should say i haven't made the time

question: assuming i start using the bike more regularly, and i more or less use it for its intended purpose, shouldn't this frame last someone who is my weight a long time???
mx_599 is offline  
Reply
Old 12-01-05 | 01:25 AM
  #42  
Raiyn's Avatar
I drink your MILKSHAKE
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 15,061
Likes: 3
From: St. Petersburg, FL

Bikes: 2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity

Originally Posted by mx_599
oh i think it is like the other Al frames...unless these guys know something else.
For the most part this is true
Originally Posted by mx_599
the only thing i have going for me is that i am the original owner, i weigh about 135 lbs, and its been basically stored. i haven't been able to use it much. or i guess i should say i haven't made the time
This is why I backed you up on it
Originally Posted by mx_599
question: assuming i start using the bike more regularly, and i more or less use it for its intended purpose, shouldn't this frame last someone who is my weight a long time???
I'd say you should get 4 or 5 good years of use out of it based on your history and intended useage. By that time you will most likely want to upgrade
__________________
Raiyn is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.