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I'm 6 foot 2 inches tall and ride a 20.5" Yeti ARC and a 19 " Jamis Dakota FS . 21 or 22 inches is way too big for you if 186cm = just over 6 feet. I ride a 60 cm road bike measured C-C .
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don't worry about the LX vs. XT...the LX will be great!
i am not from Europe. i know KTM makes quality motorcycles and unless they decided to crap out on their bicycle line, i would definitely chose the KTM.
you are contemplating the frame size way too much.
I think this KTM bikes has nothing to do with ktm motorcycles: they are tottaly different manufactory.. just has the same name..Originally Posted by mx_599
definitely go for the smaller KTM frame. listen to the other people here. i believe the trend is to have somewhat smaller frames than those calculators predict. you will get the appropriate layout for your size from the handle bar and seat adjustments and stuff.don't worry about the LX vs. XT...the LX will be great!
i am not from Europe. i know KTM makes quality motorcycles and unless they decided to crap out on their bicycle line, i would definitely chose the KTM.
you are contemplating the frame size way too much.
maybe a little bigger frame (cm or so) is more confortable than i little smaler?
When using calculators i calaculated something between 21 and 22 for hartail c to top...
calculators ar SO differrent.. it is hard to get the same results with differrent caluclators..
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maybe a little bigger frame (cm or so) is more confortable than i little smaler?
When using calculators i calaculated something between 21 and 22 for hartail c to top...
calculators ar SO differrent.. it is hard to get the same results with differrent caluclators..
they have to be the same. they both use the same "KTM" symbol. i'd hate to be the first to break it to either of the companies that there are major copyright violations. unless they don't apply in other countries. both places are from austria...right?Originally Posted by velikigrizli
I think this KTM bikes has nothing to do with ktm motorcycles: they are tottaly different manufactory.. just has the same name..maybe a little bigger frame (cm or so) is more confortable than i little smaler?
When using calculators i calaculated something between 21 and 22 for hartail c to top...
calculators ar SO differrent.. it is hard to get the same results with differrent caluclators..
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Maybe you are right.Originally Posted by mx_599
they have to be the same. they both use the same "KTM" symbol. i'd hate to be the first to break it to either of the companies that there are major copyright violations. unless they don't apply in other countries. both places are from austria...right?
I dont know are KTM motorbikes from austria or not.. ill google a little to find out
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KTM-Sportmotorcycle AG
Stallhofnerstraße 3, A-5230 Mattighofen
Tel. +43 7742/6000-0, Fax. +43 7742/6000-0
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KTM Fahrrad GmbH
Harlochnerstrasse 13
5230 Mattighofen
Phone +43(0)7742-4091-0 / Fax +43(0)7742-4091-71
eMail: office@ktm-bikes.at
Yes they have the same name and are the same company.. but they produce motorcycles form 1934, and bikes form around 1990
Stallhofnerstraße 3, A-5230 Mattighofen
Tel. +43 7742/6000-0, Fax. +43 7742/6000-0
KTM Gruppe
Headquater:
KTM Fahrrad GmbH
Harlochnerstrasse 13
5230 Mattighofen
Phone +43(0)7742-4091-0 / Fax +43(0)7742-4091-71
eMail: office@ktm-bikes.at
Yes they have the same name and are the same company.. but they produce motorcycles form 1934, and bikes form around 1990
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Stallhofnerstraße 3, A-5230 Mattighofen
Tel. +43 7742/6000-0, Fax. +43 7742/6000-0
KTM Gruppe
Headquater:
KTM Fahrrad GmbH
Harlochnerstrasse 13
5230 Mattighofen
Phone +43(0)7742-4091-0 / Fax +43(0)7742-4091-71
eMail: office@ktm-bikes.at
Yes they have the same name and are the same company.. but they produce motorcycles form 1934, and bikes form around 1990
austrian made...just like arnold. good things come from austria. they had to start somewhere. i am not a mtb bike history buff, but i don't think the "current" mtb came about until the early to mid 1980's. so motorcyles had a major head start. Originally Posted by velikigrizli
KTM-Sportmotorcycle AGStallhofnerstraße 3, A-5230 Mattighofen
Tel. +43 7742/6000-0, Fax. +43 7742/6000-0
KTM Gruppe
Headquater:
KTM Fahrrad GmbH
Harlochnerstrasse 13
5230 Mattighofen
Phone +43(0)7742-4091-0 / Fax +43(0)7742-4091-71
eMail: office@ktm-bikes.at
Yes they have the same name and are the same company.. but they produce motorcycles form 1934, and bikes form around 1990
KTM motorcylces have come a long way since about the mid to later 1990's. i certainly wouldn't be ashamed of riding a current KTM motorcycle. However, i have ridden only Honda CRs since about 1992.
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KTM motorcylces have come a long way since about the mid to later 1990's. i certainly wouldn't be ashamed of riding a current KTM motorcycle. However, i have ridden only Honda CRs since about 1992.
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austrian made...just like arnold. good things come from austria. they had to start somewhere. i am not a mtb bike history buff, but i don't think the "current" mtb came about until the early to mid 1980's. so motorcyles had a major head start. KTM motorcylces have come a long way since about the mid to later 1990's. i certainly wouldn't be ashamed of riding a current KTM motorcycle. However, i have ridden only Honda CRs since about 1992.
I think Merida has pretty lighter frames than KTM..
Merida 22" with hidr disc is 12,7 kg, and KTM 21" with hidr disc is 13,5 kg
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What?
I think this weight measurement are pretty reliable
i wouldn't base my final decision on 0.8 kgOriginally Posted by velikigrizli
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I think this weight measurement are pretty reliable
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Originally Posted by mx_599
i wouldn't base my final decision on 0.8 kg
That is only argumet I have: these bikes are very symilar.
But: ehat do you say about FOCUS bikes ?
www.forus-bikes.com
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That is only argumet I have: these bikes are very symilar.
But: ehat do you say about FOCUS bikes ?
www.forus-bikes.com
which model? they seem coolOriginally Posted by velikigrizli
That is only argumet I have: these bikes are very symilar.
But: ehat do you say about FOCUS bikes ?
www.forus-bikes.com
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i didn't see the black rider, but i like black forest. not sure if i like the integrated headsetsOriginally Posted by velikigrizli
black rider, black forest (a little too expensive) etc..
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How do you mean integrated headsets??Originally Posted by mx_599
i didn't see the black rider, but i like black forest. not sure if i like the integrated headsets
Headset is usually a special and separate part that mounts on the frame..
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Steuersatz: Integrated Aheadset, black
Whatf?Steuersatz: Integrated Aheadset, black
It means that it can not be replaced or what?
What when it deteriorates or brokes?
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Headset is usually a special and separate part that mounts on the frame..
Whatf?
It means that it can not be replaced or what?
What when it deteriorates or brokes?
https://www.chrisking.com/tech/int_he...explain_1.htmlOriginally Posted by velikigrizli
How do you mean integrated headsets??Headset is usually a special and separate part that mounts on the frame..
Whatf?
It means that it can not be replaced or what?
What when it deteriorates or brokes?
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Thanks: I hope merida and ktm doesnt have integrated head sets: so staya in the specifications
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well i don't know that integrated is that bad....Chris King thinks so....i actually like the integrated more, but CK made me paranoidOriginally Posted by velikigrizli
Thanks: I hope merida and ktm doesnt have integrated head sets: so staya in the specifications
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But can this integrated head set be replaceable? or you need to replace the whole frame?Originally Posted by mx_599
well i don't know that integrated is that bad....Chris King thinks so....i actually like the integrated more, but CK made me paranoid