UCI course question
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I don't know how the UCI race courses are determined in the US or anywhere else, but here (C1 and C2, no world cup yet), it's done by the cycling federation. Usually, after the course is partially marked, the UCI official checks the course if it includes varieties, and then he notifies the organizers for any modifications that needs to be done. In the end they always come up with a somewhat balanced course, technically.
here's the UCI regulations about courses:
Course
4.2.012 The course for a cross-country race should include a variety of terrain such as road sections,
forest tracks, fields, and earth or gravel paths, and include significant amounts of climbing and
descending. Paved or tarred/asphalt roads should not exceed 15% of the total course.
(text modified on 25.09.07).
4.2.013 The course must be wholly ridable even in difficult weather conditions. Parallel sections
must be provided on sections of the course likely to deteriorate easily.
(text modified on 25.09.07).
4.2.014 [Article transferred to art. 4.1.043 on 25.09.07].
4.2.015 Extended single track sections must have periodic passing sections.
4.2.016 [Article transferred to art. 4.1.042 on 25.09.07].
4.2.017 On the course for a cross-country event at world championships, continental championships
and world cup and Hors Classe events, provision must be made for at least 6 crossing points for
spectators. The crossings must be marshalled on each side.
(text modified on 25.09.07).
Last edited by erhan; 12-22-07 at 03:31 AM.
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Because Euros are pansies 
No but really, it's so that mtb races stay races, and not "who can run faster over the unrideable sections" (see collegiate nationals this year...). They are supposed to be fast, not necessarily super technical. UCI courses focus more in rider fitness than technical skill, to ensure that the strongest rider can win.

No but really, it's so that mtb races stay races, and not "who can run faster over the unrideable sections" (see collegiate nationals this year...). They are supposed to be fast, not necessarily super technical. UCI courses focus more in rider fitness than technical skill, to ensure that the strongest rider can win.
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I think a new race category is needed "technical short-track". Basically this would intentionally provide officiated obstacle zones. These could be anything from steep ascents to rockgardens. Riders who "dab" in such a section would be held in a box for a given amount of time, then released. Riders who get off their bike would be held longer. Penalties would set such that getting off your bike and running would be suicide to your time.
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The East Coast NMBS suffers from the same easy-course problem - so long as you can climb & descend quickly, a rider will not be overly challenged by a ski-resort race. I think the problem is that the gnarly trails which can be made into big time races just don't have resort lodging parked next door.
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The East Coast NMBS suffers from the same easy-course problem - so long as you can climb & descend quickly, a rider will not be overly challenged by a ski-resort race. I think the problem is that the gnarly trails which can be made into big time races just don't have resort lodging parked next door.
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Originally Posted by Mark Twain
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The UCI World Cup in Canmore was pretty sweet. Rocks, steeps, roots, reggae - it was all in there. I was very disappounted to se that they pulled out all the slivk roots on the climb to the Oven. It was all nicely grippy dirt instead. ZBooooo!
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I think a new race category is needed "technical short-track". Basically this would intentionally provide officiated obstacle zones. These could be anything from steep ascents to rockgardens. Riders who "dab" in such a section would be held in a box for a given amount of time, then released. Riders who get off their bike would be held longer. Penalties would set such that getting off your bike and running would be suicide to your time.
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I've found that when that is the case, the *****ing comes from riders from areas that are not from areas that are muddy and slick.
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You could try some of the skort offerings - - not lacey but they have a bit of flair . . . .
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Originally Posted by Mark Twain
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Take people out of their comfort zone and they just have to tell people about it - loudly, clearly and, until they've had a few beers and relaxed, in a slightly whiny tone.
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