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fokker 04-04-04 02:39 AM

riding again and looking for a bike
 
Hello All,

Can I get some suggestions on which bike (Hard Tail) to buy for ~$500ish. What do you guys think about the Giant Iguana? How do I measure for the correct size? I'm only 5'7" :o , would an 17.5" or 18" fit me?

Regards
John

bigchina 04-04-04 03:05 AM

specialized rockhopper, i recommend. nice components, even sweeter frame

kevntri 04-04-04 07:13 AM

17.5 or 18 is big for 5'7"

trekkie820 04-04-04 07:41 AM

Gary Fisher Marlin

mindbogger 04-04-04 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by kevntri
17.5 or 18 is big for 5'7"

I agree. Maybe a 16" or 17"?

a2psyklnut 04-05-04 09:21 AM

Guys, height has NOTHING to do with bike sizing. You don't ride your bike standing upright!

You have to measure your inseam, and then determine your torsoe length.

I'm 6'0", but I've got these short stubby legs and a long torsoe. I ride a Medium. (17" frame).

On my road bike, I ride either a 54cm or a 55cm frame.

It also depends on the manufacture and the rider's style.

I like smaller frames on my mountain bike due to my BMX background. On my road bike, I like to be more stretched out.

The whole "straddle the bike and check for 2" of clearence in your crotch" is another misconception. It's a good starting point, but if your "boys" are touching, and you prefer the top tube length of the frame, then that's the one you ride.

You really have to test ride as many different bikes as possible to determine what is best for you and your style. If you don't know, you will after about your 10th test ride!

L8R

Kayle 04-06-04 03:06 PM

I'm 5'9" and my Giant IguanaSE is 21.5". Okay, so maybe this is an extreme example (my other bike is 17" and it fits a lot better), but actually ride the bike before you decide on a frame size.

BTW, the Iguana is a great choice. Real sweet frame.

Maelstrom 04-06-04 03:17 PM

:O....5'9 and 21.5 ... my god... I would be wearing a cup or something.

wunder 04-06-04 04:15 PM

I'm 5'8" and my Giant Iguana has a 19" TT.

My next bike will definitely have a shorter TT.

Other than that, I love my Iguana.

BlackDiamond 04-06-04 06:34 PM

For $500 is get this an be happy!
http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/...oDiscred_l.jpg

What size frame should you choose?

Choosing the right frame size goes a long way toward enhancing your riding experience. Unfortunately, different manufacturers measure their frames in different ways - so a 19" frame from manufacturer A may vary wildly in size from a 19" frame from manufacturer B.

Frames are commonly measured in two ways: from the center of the bottom bracket, along the seatube, to the center of the top tube (called "center to center"); and from the center of the bottom bracket, along the seat tube, to the top of the top tube (called "center to top"). You'll need to determine how the frame you're interested in is measured to determine the proper size.

Mountain bikes are measured in inches, while road bikes are typically measured in centimeters. The right frame for you is one that is small enough to allow proper standover height, while still allowing the seat to be raised high enough for athletic pedaling.

BlackDiamond 04-06-04 06:51 PM

Or this: http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/...kCompblu_l.jpg

BlackDiamond 04-06-04 06:53 PM

But for probably for a little more than $500 I'd get this:

http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/...drockPro_l.jpg

Kayle 04-08-04 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Maelstrom
:O....5'9 and 21.5 ... my god... I would be wearing a cup or something.

Hehe...yeah. My first ride was hell in terms of the pain applied to a certain...area...of the body.

jpel85 04-08-04 08:11 PM

hey everyone im new to the forum.... im looking to get an urban/trail/jump bike. ill be doing a lot of single track riding but the bike should be somewhat huckable. my original plan was to do a build but with my cash flow itll take me forever and i want to get in on this season. i was thinking the hard rock pro disc but at that price might as well go for the p.2.... any suggestions for .... eh i hate giving price ranges because i want the best haha... just give me some suggestions on a good begginer huckable bike (keep in mind ive been riding bmx for yearssss so this bike will be taking some punishment). thanks.

BlackDiamond 04-09-04 03:19 PM

jpel85, yea get: http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/...kes/04P2_l.jpg And be happy you did.


Originally Posted by jpel85
hey everyone im new to the forum.... im looking to get an urban/trail/jump bike. ill be doing a lot of single track riding but the bike should be somewhat huckable. my original plan was to do a build but with my cash flow itll take me forever and i want to get in on this season. i was thinking the hard rock pro disc but at that price might as well go for the p.2.... any suggestions for .... eh i hate giving price ranges because i want the best haha... just give me some suggestions on a good begginer huckable bike (keep in mind ive been riding bmx for yearssss so this bike will be taking some punishment). thanks.


jpel85 04-11-04 03:11 PM

yeah thats what im thinking now^^^... i like the geometry a lot better on the p series. it has a better bmx feel i think. the gearing is also nice on the p.2

pual 04-11-04 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by jpel85
yeah thats what im thinking now^^^... i like the geometry a lot better on the p series. it has a better bmx feel i think. the gearing is also nice on the p.2

Good luck pedaling a P2 on the trails. That is unless you like kneeing yourself in the face. The P2 does have a BMX feel like you said...who the hell would want to ride a BMX on trails?! If you want a burly hardtail for trailriding I'd look more at the Hardrock series if you're set on specialized. If you want to do more DJ/urban then P2 is the way to go.

jpel85 04-11-04 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by pual
Good luck pedaling a P2 on the trails. That is unless you like kneeing yourself in the face. The P2 does have a BMX feel like you said...who the hell would want to ride a BMX on trails?! If you want a burly hardtail for trailriding I'd look more at the Hardrock series if you're set on specialized. If you want to do more DJ/urban then P2 is the way to go.

thats my delema. i want something in between. and i ride my bmx on trails i just dont use the saddle... ever. when youre a poor college student like me you make do with what you have :lol: . im not really set on specialized either. i'm open to any suggestions. so dish out any ideas you have.

Maelstrom 04-12-04 01:09 AM

The p2 is fine. I know more than enough riders who ride them on trails. Tall seatpost and you are good to go :)

PErsonally I only buy specialized or Kona at this point. After much testings I don't think other big bike companies offer what I am looking for in a bike generally. (ironhorse does too but I can't get them here)...

pual 04-12-04 09:47 AM

I have a 2004 Kona Scrap and I cannot ride it on trails. Even with the seatpost at its highest (it's really long and it looks ridiculous) I can't get enough extension and I fatigue very quickly. The P2 geometry would be even worse. Maybe in BC it's easier because you're going downhill mostly and you can be off the seat for the majority of the ride. In Ontario we don't have that luxury ;)

thedopefish 04-14-04 08:21 PM

i have my seat waaay lower than it probly should be (im 6'2) and i can ride for hours.... but then again, i rode bmx for a couple or so years...

Maelstrom 04-14-04 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by pual
I have a 2004 Kona Scrap and I cannot ride it on trails. Even with the seatpost at its highest (it's really long and it looks ridiculous) I can't get enough extension and I fatigue very quickly. The P2 geometry would be even worse. Maybe in BC it's easier because you're going downhill mostly and you can be off the seat for the majority of the ride. In Ontario we don't have that luxury ;)

Haha...I think you have a massive misconception of the riding here. Its 50% uphill and 50% downhill. I don't ride my roast on the mountain. But the uphill is too technical to stay seated all the time. I also can't stand having full extension on my legs. Makes riding feel to dangerous.

Applehead57 04-15-04 06:14 AM

One quick thought, those knobby gnarly mountain bike tires are dreadfully slow on pavement. It's faster to get off and run along side your bike. If you will be doing more pavement than trail, consider a modified street slick.

jpel85 04-19-04 11:46 PM


Applehead57 One quick thought, those knobby gnarly mountain bike tires are dreadfully slow on pavement. It's faster to get off and run along side your bike. If you will be doing more pavement than trail, consider a modified street slick.
yep. i had some 2.0s on my bmx and that was bad on pavement. i cant imagine what it would be like with a larger wheel. after i get my rig and save up some more money ill prolly just get another wheel set for urban riding and switch em out accordingly.

im starting to lean towards the specialized hardrock comp now cuz its about 200 less than the p.2 and it still has decent components and a solid frame. at this point i just want something to get started on and i will just upgrade as i break stuff :lol:. anyone have objections or suggestions.

a2psyklnut 04-20-04 04:16 AM

I'd stick with a bike like the P.2 or Kona Scrap or ????

I rode BMX for years and if you are used to riding a 20" bike, the position will be similar. Actually it'll be closer to riding a 24" cruiser.

I had a 2000 P.3, and I used to call it my BMX bike on Steroids. I used to ride it on XC trails all the time!

L8R


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