liv_rong

people dont understand what im saying.if youve worked with a lot of roadies you would see what im talkin about.People need to relax...and not read into everything so much

Ladyjai

alt.troll faq 2e in work... fascinating... still rather obvious.

Raiyn

Yeah ones that never make it off road anymore. I've seen aero bars on X-mart bikes down here. Sad really the bars cost more than the bike

liv_rong

thats even worse then a roadie, i always try to talk people out of doing stupid crap like that.its not what the bike was designed for and its ignorant,so people must stop doing it and doing some research into something that fits their needs better

Raiyn

I agree completely, but it's not my bike. I just do what the customer asks after suggesting something better. Ultimately it's not my call

Dirtbike

My front hub is worth more than walmart bikes :/ Thats rediculous to put a 100 dollar aero bar on a walmart bike.

liv_rong

This is true but do you ever have conflicts because you think something isnt safe or you think that they will ultimately not be happy with it? And try to talk them out of it? I alsways felt like a total ass at some shops trying to sell kickstands and other crap-ons to people,some people just dont need that stuff.It sucks that it is sort of forced upon people, but the add-ons is where a lot of money is made.People buy a bike and get all excited about how cool the sport is and they end up walking out with all this extra stuff that they will either never use or will end up taking off eventualy because they realize its not right.

Raiyn

I state my case and leave it at that after it's clear they understand my point. Beyond that it's their own dumbass fault.

Brian

Every once in a while I manage a weekend ride with a roadie from this forum. He rides some ridiculous distance to get here (40km maybe) we do a loop of town, check out the girlies at the beach if they're there, and maybe stop for a bad cup of coffee before I head back home, and he hits the highway again. I ride maybe 30km with him, and he probably does something like 100km for the day. I use my really light XC with semi slicks, and try to keep up. And I learned something on the first ride. Not all roadies are d!ckheads. He says hi to everyone, no matter what they ride. But it's the easy part of his ride. I'm sure the rest of the ride he's incredibly focused on maintaining pace, cadence, breathing, heart rate, etc. Sure they can be snobs, but they're not all bad. I used to ride road bikes semi-competitively, but I found it to be pretty joyless compared to MTBs. They have to put in heaps of hard riding during the week to stay competitive. We can eat pizza and drink beer every night of the week, and still have a fun Saturday morning ride. Don't condemn them all. Try saying hello to them every once in a while. That's my 2 cents.

Ranzak

I ride both road and mountain bikes and I really dont see any difference between the two groups of riders on the whole. I wave and speak to everyone I meet and am ignored and greeted by equal percentages of both groups. What amazes me the most is being 20mi back in Pisgah National Forest not having seen a soul for 3 hours, you have another hour more til civilization and all of a sudden another rider appears and rides right by me on my $400 bike and my buddy on his $2000 bike on his $4000 bike without one iota of recognition that we are there!! I will never understand that. Another example: I showed up at a Sunday afternoon fast road ride on a "sport" bike and 75 miles later finishing first ahead of everyone and only having 2 guys (out of the 8 that were left from the original 2 dozen) congratulate me and talk to me. It seems to me that even though I wish cyclists were special people they are just people; they range from morons to Einstein and from hateful to super-friendly. In my experience I don't see that either of the two groups are better or worse.

bpohl

It's funny to see these words coming from mountain bikers, since I ALWAYS wave at them, and I get a wave back about one in ten times. Seems to me more like it's the mountain bikers who are out trying to impress, especially when you see the you ng guys cruising the bike trails with no shirts on, waving at all the girls, and just generally being tools. Mind you, this behavior also includes making fun of road cyclists in their lycra-clad getups. Who gives a *****? Just freaking ride, mind your own business and keep your damned mouth shut.

swifferman

The difference is, (some people here) think that road bikers act different then normal adults, but the above sounds exactly like people in our age group act. Regardless of bike or no bike.

madbiker555

I don't get it, I don't know why you would even think of putting aerobars on a mountain bike? Some people should just use common sense.

Brian

Tell that to the guys that do the Croc Challenge here in Australia. It is by far the toughest MTB race in the world. Many of the riders used an aero bar of some sort, as do XC racers for 12 and 24 hour events. Not that unusual.

madbiker555

I could see if you were to have it for a long XC race but other than that it just doesn't seem right.

Brian

I tried a pair on one of my XC bikes. It's got semi slicks, and I used to do morning rides out to the beach and back. Since it was mostly street and bike paths, I gave the aero bar a try. Looked ugly, but helped me a bit on the long stretches. I admire anyone that can use one off road.

ghettocruiser

I thought of aeros on an MTB as a faux-pas as well. I wouldn't even put a set on my road bike. That was until I, and a thousand other competitors got owned by a guy with aerobars on his hardtail in the last race I was in.

Having reconsidered, I think I would rather lose the race then mount the bars.

Brian

Good to see that some guys are at the back of the pack because they're more worried about image than winning.

Wheel Doctor

Hmm. Anybody old enough to remember the Bridgstone MB-1? It was touted in Bicycling as the hottest MTB in 1986. It came stock with dropped road bars. It was butt ugly.

madbiker555

How could that be the hottest bike in 1986? I typed it in google and it is hidious! How and Why?

Wheel Doctor

Mountain Biking was just getting hot so it was touted to be innovative. You should have seen the Ross MTB's with the 6 lb Bull Moose bars. Wide and swept back. These bikes weighed a ton. They had names like Mt. Washington and Rainier. Coolest bike was the Ritchy Commando. A beautiful fillet braised cromo frame with a glossy camo paintjob. The MB-1 was only out for one year with the dropped bars. If I remember right it had barcon shifters.

I had a Bridgstone MB-2. It was a lugged cromo frame with canti front and an under chainstay mounted U-brake. It would stop real good even caked with mud. Cost was $459 and that was a lot in mid eighty dollars. The hideous MB-1 was about $599. I;m not sure if it was an 86' or 87' that had the dropped bars.

Jude

ghettocruiser

Didnt John Tomac win one of the first mammoth downhill races on a MTB with drop bars? Seems surreal nowadays when the riser handlebars on my DH bike are about a foot higher than the seat. At least no one has used actual aerobars in a DH race.... that I know of.

And madbiker555, the race that was won by the guy with aerobars on a MTB was none other than your own hometown Paris to Ancaster...

Maelstrom 

He did, I also remember reading an interview saying he regretting doing it cause it scared the crap out of him and he would never consider it on todays dh courses.

KrisPistofferson

I've had a few MTBs with drops. I like it.

bpohl

On oregon tartil i always died of ghonnorhea... hows trhat for real?