DOC vs. .243
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DOC vs. .243
Hey, i'm looking at two frames for the new season, both steel and both somewhat around the same price. As you can tell the Evil Doc and and .243 frames. Just a stright forward question, which frame do you think would suit my riding better. I ride mostly urban but am going to try to venture into the word of freeride trail riding this summer. Thanks
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Umm they are both meant for the same thing and the geometries are similar. DOC is likely lighter, the .243 is a beast.
Also look a the Transition TrailorPark. Unreal frame
Also look a the Transition TrailorPark. Unreal frame
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The Block 8 Journeyman is also looking popular anybody rode one or have any info?
The Trail-or-Park looks nice. Are the rear dropouts set for QR or solid axles and those seat stays look pretty radical, what is the price in Canadian
The Trail-or-Park looks nice. Are the rear dropouts set for QR or solid axles and those seat stays look pretty radical, what is the price in Canadian
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I am guessing you both spend time on ridemonkey...one thing, don't fall into the ridemonkey purchasing rut. Its an expensive rut to live in.
The dropouts work with either. IT has a neat tensioner systems that mounts either. But in reality I would always use a TA with it
Frame ends up around 400$...you buy direct from Kyle. The owners are good people
Your best deal comes when you buy it with a fork. I bought it last year with a slider and the frame was basically free.
The dropouts work with either. IT has a neat tensioner systems that mounts either. But in reality I would always use a TA with it
Frame ends up around 400$...you buy direct from Kyle. The owners are good people
Your best deal comes when you buy it with a fork. I bought it last year with a slider and the frame was basically free.
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Depends. What kind of riding do you want to do and how much money. I am partial to the z1 but if you don't have the cash maybe go for a djer.
Ridemonkey rut is a joke I use to explain how ridemonkey works. half the people there are sponsored or industry workers and don't pay full price for diddly. They live in this fantasy world where "a-type is the best" however 99% of the time the best actually means newest most expensive. Ridemonkey is the epitome of "buying into the hype"...
Ridemonkey rut is a joke I use to explain how ridemonkey works. half the people there are sponsored or industry workers and don't pay full price for diddly. They live in this fantasy world where "a-type is the best" however 99% of the time the best actually means newest most expensive. Ridemonkey is the epitome of "buying into the hype"...
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Oh and the transition is lighter than .243and the geometry feels better. I loved .243 and always wanted one....until I got my ToP
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i totally agree about ridemonkey.. but i love rm. b/c half the people get stuff new at cost, and they have to have the latest and greatest, they sell their stuff with minimal use for dirt cheap, and anyone who didnt get those deals has to lower their prices to almost unreal levels too. compared with what stuff is selling on ebay, the same stuff on rm is selling at about half the price.
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case in point... https://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=114038
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I still like and visit ridemonkey often. I just find it too cliquish and kind of annoying. What killed it for me was the respect group/thread/*******...they drove me nuts. I stopped visiting for about 3 months because of how annoying they were.
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Only as a ghetto SS...
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18191
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18192
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18190
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18214
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...&highlight=top
Its torn down right now. Getting a TA rear wheel and a SS conversion kit so it will be a true SS. Beyond the drive train, thats basically how she will look. I also have a thomson seatpost that can go all the way down, making it nice and clean looking.
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18191
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18192
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18190
https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=18214
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...&highlight=top
Its torn down right now. Getting a TA rear wheel and a SS conversion kit so it will be a true SS. Beyond the drive train, thats basically how she will look. I also have a thomson seatpost that can go all the way down, making it nice and clean looking.
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https://www.bikeforums.net/mountain-biking/72393-top-complete-least-ghetto-style-anyways.html
edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.
edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.
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Originally Posted by MadMan2k
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=72393
edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.
edit: heh, dang me and my slow internet... yeh, its the internets fault.
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Yep. It holds the chain on when I am jumping. I even went the side guides tighter so the chain had no side to side movement. Soon enough this will be a true SS and I will be posting pics as soon as I finish her off. I just need some spanking new wheels




...but I pre ordered with a 2005 fork last summer, so I had to wait for stock.

