Groupset or Fork..which is more important?
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Groupset or Fork..which is more important?
I am curious as to what you value most, the groupset or the front fork on a hardtail? If you are on a budget and could only pay attention to one, which would it be?
I am leaning towards the shock personally.
In my newest mtb purchase I have the choice.
Alivio groupset with a Suntour fork.
Deore groupset with a Rockshox fork.
My other option is to buy the bike with the Alivio groupset and purchase the Rockshox fork from Merlin and swapping them out. I could then sell the Suntour fork on Ebay for some change to offset the cost.
I am leaning towards the third option but was curious what others thought.
I am leaning towards the shock personally.
In my newest mtb purchase I have the choice.
Alivio groupset with a Suntour fork.
Deore groupset with a Rockshox fork.
My other option is to buy the bike with the Alivio groupset and purchase the Rockshox fork from Merlin and swapping them out. I could then sell the Suntour fork on Ebay for some change to offset the cost.
I am leaning towards the third option but was curious what others thought.
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Fork by a mile. The fork is your most important component on a MTB. If it's full suspension, the rear suspension design and shock type are next.
Groupset is not very important, other than weight.
Brakes would be 3rd most important, or 2nd most important if it's a hardtail. This all assumes the bike has the right geometry for what you want to ride and it fits. Those are assumed.
Groupset is not very important, other than weight.
Brakes would be 3rd most important, or 2nd most important if it's a hardtail. This all assumes the bike has the right geometry for what you want to ride and it fits. Those are assumed.
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Alivio groupset with a Suntour fork.
Deore groupset with a Rockshox fork.
My other option is to buy the bike with the Alivio groupset and purchase the Rockshox fork from Merlin and swapping them out. I could then sell the Suntour fork on Ebay for some change to offset the cost.
Deore groupset with a Rockshox fork.
My other option is to buy the bike with the Alivio groupset and purchase the Rockshox fork from Merlin and swapping them out. I could then sell the Suntour fork on Ebay for some change to offset the cost.
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He had two choiches: Suntour fork paired with Alivio and Rock Shox fork paired with Deore (probably at similar cost).
He thought he had a difficult choice between better fork (Rock Shox) paired with what he thought is a lesser groupset (Deore) or worse fork (Suntour) paired with what he thought is a better groupset (Alivio).
Also from this dilemma he got his idea of a third choice: buy the bicycle with Suntour fork (and Alivio groupset) and upgrade the fork to Rock Shox.
He thought he had a difficult choice between better fork (Rock Shox) paired with what he thought is a lesser groupset (Deore) or worse fork (Suntour) paired with what he thought is a better groupset (Alivio).
Also from this dilemma he got his idea of a third choice: buy the bicycle with Suntour fork (and Alivio groupset) and upgrade the fork to Rock Shox.
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This is what I got from his post too.
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OP if you can afford the deore groupset with a rockshock, go for that.
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If the OP can afford to do that, wouldn't just buying a better spec'd bike in the first place be a more cost effective option.
With any bike, buying and upgrading straight away, normally says you bought the wrong one in the first place.
With the options given
The Deore/Alivio choice is pretty simple, do you want 10 or 9 speed.
The current Deore (M610) is in it's last year/18 months, an may go 11 speed time, Alivio (M4000) is new this year and looks very nice
The Fork is difficult, are you talking a high end Suntour vs Low end RS or vise versa? without knowing which fork, and which version of that fork, the question really can't be answered.
No mention of the frame, if it has a taped headtube (without this, fork upgrades are going to be hard) wheel size (for 2015, it's 27.5, 26" is dead, 29er will follow soon) does it fro a thru axle front? all these things need to be taken into consideration, it's the package, not just the groupset or forks.
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If the OP can afford to do that, wouldn't just buying a better spec'd bike in the first place be a more cost effective option.
With any bike, buying and upgrading straight away, normally says you bought the wrong one in the first place.
With the options given
The Deore/Alivio choice is pretty simple, do you want 10 or 9 speed.
The current Deore (M610) is in it's last year/18 months, an may go 11 speed time, Alivio (M4000) is new this year and looks very nice
The Fork is difficult, are you talking a high end Suntour vs Low end RS or vise versa? without knowing which fork, and which version of that fork, the question really can't be answered.
No mention of the frame, if it has a taped headtube (without this, fork upgrades are going to be hard) wheel size (for 2015, it's 27.5, 26" is dead, 29er will follow soon) does it fro a thru axle front? all these things need to be taken into consideration, it's the package, not just the groupset or forks.
With any bike, buying and upgrading straight away, normally says you bought the wrong one in the first place.
With the options given
The Deore/Alivio choice is pretty simple, do you want 10 or 9 speed.
The current Deore (M610) is in it's last year/18 months, an may go 11 speed time, Alivio (M4000) is new this year and looks very nice
The Fork is difficult, are you talking a high end Suntour vs Low end RS or vise versa? without knowing which fork, and which version of that fork, the question really can't be answered.
No mention of the frame, if it has a taped headtube (without this, fork upgrades are going to be hard) wheel size (for 2015, it's 27.5, 26" is dead, 29er will follow soon) does it fro a thru axle front? all these things need to be taken into consideration, it's the package, not just the groupset or forks.
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Spend the coin and go up to SLX gear, If you want a good Suntour you need to go up to the Raidon level.
Those SR or SXR, SCR, whatever beginner Suntour forks got this little sticker down low on the inside of one leg, sez, "This fork Intended for mom to follow the kids up and down a hard pack dirt or gravel road or ride to the store for beer"
You will soon find this fork lacking on any single track rides or any flat off road ride at any speed where you have a breeze in your face,,
Trust me on this one rider......
https://www.srsuntourna.com/upgrade/
$189 lands you the Raidon, a $350 fork,,,just sayin...
Those SR or SXR, SCR, whatever beginner Suntour forks got this little sticker down low on the inside of one leg, sez, "This fork Intended for mom to follow the kids up and down a hard pack dirt or gravel road or ride to the store for beer"
You will soon find this fork lacking on any single track rides or any flat off road ride at any speed where you have a breeze in your face,,
Trust me on this one rider......
https://www.srsuntourna.com/upgrade/
$189 lands you the Raidon, a $350 fork,,,just sayin...
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