bitterspeak

While that MIGHT be a possibility of doping prior to Contador's blood clot, it doesn't prove anything in 2007, 2008, and 2009 the years that he actually won. Unless of course, you are assuming he didn't learn his lesson after he almost died as a consequence of his action (THIS assuming that he actually doped) and he went straight back to doping.

Anyway, Contador's "blood clot" was diagnosed as a cerebral cavernoma, a congenital vascular disorder. So you're wrong regardless.

bkrownd

Yeah, it was hilarious - he looked exactly like the Alien when he hunkered down and peeled back his lips to show those big clenched choppers.

proud2becroat

https://eurosport.yahoo.com/23072009/...ing-query.html


interesting if nothing else!

roadwarrior

Opinions are like @$$holes...everyone's got one.

jim6b

Just ask LA. If they want to know about AC's performance measurements, LA knows what they are. And is likely to tell it "like it is."

FWIW, in interview after Verbier LA said that he could not keep up with AC and to emphasis the point LA related that AC's numbers were much higher than LA had a few years ago when he was in his prime.

Have attempted to relocate the URL for reference, regretfully it has apparently been erased as cite does not archive.

rogwilco

What else would you expect him to say?

roadwarrior

We are glad that, "in your book" all is well.

Like you have any clue...

roadwarrior

uh, he suffered from cerebral cavernoma, which is congenital. He suffered a seizure at the Vuelta Asturias.

oh.

Does anybody know what they are talking about?

roadwarrior

Yes.

proud2becroat

maybe something like...I'm willing to take every kind of tests if needed???? that should should sound reasonable and show people you got nothing to hide. Is this only my opinion? well, i'm not saying he's doped just don't like when people don't give straight answer as it puts shadow of suspicion.

Gotte

It must be difficult, not only with the world's press in your face, but also with an interpreter. But I think if I'd been him, I'd have used the opportunity to say "I am clean. LeMond can kiss my..." But a none-answer answer will always seem evasive, even if it's genuinely not meant to be.

I suspect that the whole problem with his stunning performance is that, as someone says in the posts on the Eurosport site, the lessons of the past are hard to unlearn, or something similar.

Once bitten, twice shy.

FriendlyFred

[QUOTE=proud2becroat;9343560]https://eurosport.yahoo.com/23072009/...ing-query.html


good lord, is Greg LeMond going to accuse everyone who isn't Greg LeMond of doping. Why can't he just go away. Talk about hurting the sport. For every positive thing that happens, you get LeMond stirring the doping pot and that's all the non-cyclists hear. enough already.

Roobaix

Maybe I'm missing something, but what does this have to do with Lemond?

RacerMike

Did you read it? 4th paragraph?

botto 

yellow journalism at its finest.

Roobaix

Yes, I read it. Like I said...maybe I missed something. Thanks!

kensuf

Has he been tested?

(yes)

Did he fail?

(no)

Move along here.

rankin116

We won't know if he failed until maybe September. Speculation is all we have!

kensuf

well then, any speculation is just hyperbole until the results come back.

Laggard

Lemond also said that Contador had an unfair advanage as he's never been shot in the back by his brother in law.

Gotte

Here's a link to an article on Bikeradar. I think it sums up quite nicely the concern with Contador. There's nothing in it that doesn't cover any new ground (except for perhaps Cancellara's outburst in the bar), but it's a good read.

https://www.bikeradar.com/blogs/artic...faux-pas-22537

daveF

How many blood bags were positively identified to riders? Only 3 that I know of, Basso, Ullrich, & Valverde. None of which were pursued by Spain. How many were frequenting Dr. Fuentes' office?

bellweatherman

There was a slew of cyclists that died of heart attack in the 90s. Otherwise, healthy young athletes with no prior health problems. It was suspected that all of them were on EPO, which thickens the blood and puts the person at risk for blood clotting. This is one of the reasons for saline infusions to decrease the viscosity of the blood as well as lowering the measured hematocrit.

Hezz

Very true. In a road race this little hill would not even be considered a hill. But some do not seem to realize that this little hill is huge when you are already pedaling at maximum non sprint wattage. A sudden increase of 100-200 watts or so to maintain the same speed after 20km or so is a big deal. It definitely favors a climber who is good at time trialing. Cancellara would probably have to increase his output significantly more to maintain the same speed over the hill as would Contador because of his larger size and weight.

puppypilgrim

Some interesting thoughts on Contador's performance and VO/Max.

https://www.sportsscientists.com/2009...or-vo2max.html