Floyd: US Postal sold bikes to pay for doping - WSJ story
07-03-10, 04:07 PM
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You are all being very persuasive in your arguments but when it comes down to it you are clearly demonstrating the pressure Floyd was under in the first place to admit NOTHING.
If you really care about curing cancer see this guy, https://www.cancerisafungus.com/ He's been successfully treating cancer for several years but no one cares. This cure can't be patented. Its simply sodium bicarbonate. Serious.
If you really care about curing cancer see this guy, https://www.cancerisafungus.com/ He's been successfully treating cancer for several years but no one cares. This cure can't be patented. Its simply sodium bicarbonate. Serious.
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12346
https://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/expe...ts-are-morons/
a small number of cancers may be caused by candida infections, however the claims made by that guy are NOT valid in a clinically useful manner.
this guy is no different than the "free energy" nutjobs out there.
07-03-10, 04:47 PM
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You're right, the world is so much better off with fake kindness and lies.
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Define "lie".
We KNOW most of Armstrong's major competition during his 7-year-run DID use PEDs.
So, the truth must be one of:
1. Armstrong is clean and therefore far and away the best cyclist ever
2. Armstrong isn't clean but won 7 TdFs in a row on a level playing field, making him one of the best cyclists ever.
Take your pick.
We KNOW most of Armstrong's major competition during his 7-year-run DID use PEDs.
So, the truth must be one of:
1. Armstrong is clean and therefore far and away the best cyclist ever
2. Armstrong isn't clean but won 7 TdFs in a row on a level playing field, making him one of the best cyclists ever.
Take your pick.
^^THIS^^
Plus:
Floyd Landis = has been.............
07-03-10, 05:54 PM
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please take off the tinfoil hat.
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12346
https://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/expe...ts-are-morons/
a small number of cancers may be caused by candida infections, however the claims made by that guy are NOT valid in a clinically useful manner.
this guy is no different than the "free energy" nutjobs out there.
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12346
https://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/expe...ts-are-morons/
a small number of cancers may be caused by candida infections, however the claims made by that guy are NOT valid in a clinically useful manner.
this guy is no different than the "free energy" nutjobs out there.
Yes Dr Mercola goes to great lengths to show his scientific sources probably because NO ONE else does. Dr Simoncini also goes to great lengths to demonstrate where using the "scientific" method led him and why. These guys use science.
The mainstream medical model CLAIMS to be scientifically based but if you ask even the most basic questions, if you look for the science its not there. Why? Because its PRIVATE. Its patented.
We have forsaken "Science" for a faith in "Private Research and Development". You believe that private R&D is going to come up with the answer because of course, anything good HAS to cost lots of money so when real science comes up with the answer on a shoe string budget everyone defers to their great faith, "Private R&D".
They cant believe their luck. Wake up and demand "SCIENCE", not private Research and development.
Anthony
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07-03-10, 07:03 PM
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Where are your scientific sources please.
Yes Dr Mercola goes to great lengths to show his scientific sources probably because NO ONE else does. Dr Simoncini also goes to great lengths to demonstrate where using the "scientific" method led him and why. These guys use science.
The mainstream medical model CLAIMS to be scientifically based but if you ask even the most basic questions, if you look for the science its not there. Why? Because its PRIVATE. Its patented.
We have forsaken "Science" for a faith in "Private Research and Development". You believe that private R&D is going to come up with the answer because of course, anything good HAS to cost lots of money so when real science comes up with the answer on a shoe string budget everyone defers to their great faith, "Private R&D".
They cant believe their luck. Wake up and demand "SCIENCE", not private Research and development.
Anthony
Yes Dr Mercola goes to great lengths to show his scientific sources probably because NO ONE else does. Dr Simoncini also goes to great lengths to demonstrate where using the "scientific" method led him and why. These guys use science.
The mainstream medical model CLAIMS to be scientifically based but if you ask even the most basic questions, if you look for the science its not there. Why? Because its PRIVATE. Its patented.
We have forsaken "Science" for a faith in "Private Research and Development". You believe that private R&D is going to come up with the answer because of course, anything good HAS to cost lots of money so when real science comes up with the answer on a shoe string budget everyone defers to their great faith, "Private R&D".
They cant believe their luck. Wake up and demand "SCIENCE", not private Research and development.
Anthony
07-03-10, 07:08 PM
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That ain't liberal. I'm liberal by most counts and I think the guy is pimping some bunk snake oil treatment.
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No doubt, how bout keeping it cycling related folks.
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I hope Merlin or someone else can explain what law was actually broken that the feds are investigating...I feel like I am missing that part. I keep hearing defrauded, and I am wondering who is being defrauded (the gov? the sponsors?) and how it is any different than a football player (they seem to get popped one a week) with NFL sponsors.
Also even if there are witnesses would that be enough "proof" to put someone in jail or would they need actual blood tests?
Also even if there are witnesses would that be enough "proof" to put someone in jail or would they need actual blood tests?
07-03-10, 08:38 PM
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We'll see about his conscience. He'll have to write another book, raise $1M, and give it all back to the folks who donated to his appeal fund.
I don't think that's going to happen. You do, apparently.
07-03-10, 08:50 PM
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I shouldn't be responding to nonsense on BF but you should know that patents are PUBLIC and essentially teach the reader how to construct whatever is being patented. It's just that the owner of the patent is protected from others using the invention for profit.
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I hope Merlin or someone else can explain what law was actually broken that the feds are investigating...I feel like I am missing that part. I keep hearing defrauded, and I am wondering who is being defrauded (the gov? the sponsors?) and how it is any different than a football player (they seem to get popped one a week) with NFL sponsors.
Also even if there are witnesses would that be enough "proof" to put someone in jail or would they need actual blood tests?
Also even if there are witnesses would that be enough "proof" to put someone in jail or would they need actual blood tests?
07-03-10, 08:59 PM
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I hope the old man can pull it off. I think that would be fantastic. But if not, I am glad he came back and gave it a go. would have been way better if he had never quit.
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And before anyone accuses me of hating, I really, really, really don't care. I'm not going to watch a minute of the TDF. I'll only know who wins because someone will mention it here. It doesn't enter my world, and it doesn't matter to me who wins.
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What's this got to do with cycling anyway? We don't really need millions more dollars from the LAF for cancer research. We just need to use our brains.
Anthony
07-03-10, 09:22 PM
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Sure. If he wins, good on him. Calling Floyd a "has been" when Lance didn't exactly win his last attempt, though, is disingenuous at best.
And before anyone accuses me of hating, I really, really, really don't care. I'm not going to watch a minute of the TDF. I'll only know who wins because someone will mention it here. It doesn't enter my world, and it doesn't matter to me who wins.
And before anyone accuses me of hating, I really, really, really don't care. I'm not going to watch a minute of the TDF. I'll only know who wins because someone will mention it here. It doesn't enter my world, and it doesn't matter to me who wins.
07-03-10, 09:39 PM
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I'm loving these articles. Better than any ghost written "autobiography" of an athlete.
PS, UGASkiDawg: Channeling Sarah Palin doesn't exactly make you out to be one of the vast majority of people in the middle on the spectrum of radical political opinion. PPS, drill, baby, drill!
PS, UGASkiDawg: Channeling Sarah Palin doesn't exactly make you out to be one of the vast majority of people in the middle on the spectrum of radical political opinion. PPS, drill, baby, drill!
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Newsflash: the instant you start paying guys to do it, it's more business than sport. And the bigger the money gets, the more that applies. Get a grip, they're paying the big stars of cycling millions of dollars to do this. And they're trying to get an edge? Oh, there's a shock.
There's no justifying cheating. Period.
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I'm loving these articles. Better than any ghost written "autobiography" of an athlete.
PS, UGASkiDawg: Channeling Sarah Palin doesn't exactly make you out to be one of the vast majority of people in the middle on the spectrum of radical political opinion. PPS, drill, baby, drill!
PS, UGASkiDawg: Channeling Sarah Palin doesn't exactly make you out to be one of the vast majority of people in the middle on the spectrum of radical political opinion. PPS, drill, baby, drill!
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07-03-10, 10:38 PM
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Ride it like you stole it
Now there is a clean sport, at every level.
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