Is it just a huge coincidence or is cycling really a racist sport?
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Is it just a huge coincidence or is cycling really a racist sport?
Until Lemond all the pros were European. Today its just them and a handful of Americans. Everyone is white. I think there was a Japanese guy on some team but that's it.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
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Until Lemond all the pros were European. Today its just them and a handful of Americans. Everyone is white. I think there was a Japanese guy on some team but that's it.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
I am also not sure what you find "funny" about it.
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Europcar has Yohann Gene this year, who I think is the first black competitor ever in the Tour de France.
This is obviously a hot button topic, but I doubt there is any sort of racist conspiracy in pro cycling to exclude anyone. All the teams want to do is win.
There was a really excellent article in a recent New Yorker about the Rwanda national cycling team:
https://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...act_gourevitch
This is obviously a hot button topic, but I doubt there is any sort of racist conspiracy in pro cycling to exclude anyone. All the teams want to do is win.
There was a really excellent article in a recent New Yorker about the Rwanda national cycling team:
https://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...act_gourevitch
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This is because black folks are better at "team sports".
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Racism means it only aplies to black people to you?
Racism applies to all races, from all races, not just black.
You just revealed what type of mentality you have, and the level of evolution you are at as a person.
Racism applies to all races, from all races, not just black.
You just revealed what type of mentality you have, and the level of evolution you are at as a person.
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It seems like cycling is more likely to thrive in a region with a well-developed road system where many people have enough disposable income to be able to easily afford quality bikes and where these things have existed for long enough to create a cycling sub-culture. Bing, bing, bing for Europe and South America with the U.S. closely behind. I don't see where race comes into it.
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It seems like cycling is more likely to thrive in a region with a well-developed road system where many people have enough disposable income to be able to easily afford quality bikes and where these things have existed for long enough to create a cycling sub-culture. Bing, bing, bing for Europe and South America with the U.S. closely behind. I don't see where race comes into it.
Thanks for writing this so simply, yet so comprehensibly.
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excuse me? south america?
maybe if you'd have said South Africa I could get it,
but south America has some of the worst roads ever.
Doesn't meet the criteria for disposable income either.
maybe if you'd have said South Africa I could get it,
but south America has some of the worst roads ever.
Doesn't meet the criteria for disposable income either.
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It is an expensive sport especially at the competitive level for any race of human to get into. Funding is a major issue just like in golf. And in the USA "organized youth cycling" means riding around with your buddies and going somewhere. So unless you have a mentor that is into cycling how are you going to get into it? I'm talking about youths in general not just non whites.
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Until Lemond all the pros were European. Today its just them and a handful of Americans. Everyone is white. I think there was a Japanese guy on some team but that's it.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
Pretty funny when a good amount of long distance runners are black.
Another thing, there are lots of non-white cyclists in my area, but not sure if that's true of most amateur and recreational groups.
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If you want to see more black riders move to Atlanta. MACC is a great organization. https://www.maccattack.com/
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This topic has been covered hundreds of times in the five years I've been posting here - I get to poke fun of the OP's banal reiteration of an old topic and your petty "team sports" troll with a single post - PWN!
BTW - Team Radio Shack alone has riders from five different continents - missing is South America... I think they had a Columbian last year though.
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Dude, you're probably the only person in here who didn't get that was a joke.
This topic has been covered hundreds of times in the five years I've been posting here - I get to poke fun of the OP's banal reiteration of an old topic and your petty "team sports" troll with a single post - PWN!
This topic has been covered hundreds of times in the five years I've been posting here - I get to poke fun of the OP's banal reiteration of an old topic and your petty "team sports" troll with a single post - PWN!
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1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Edit: I focused on black people here, but the same goes for other races.
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As others have pointed out, there are quite a few South Americans (notably Colombians) in the peloton.
One of the earliest prominent bicycle racers was Major Taylor (https://www.majortaylorassociation.org/who.htm), and there is a cycling club out of New Jersey named after him.
FYI, African nations are just starting to get into cycling, and it's very popular. A recent New Yorker article talked about the state of pro cycling in Rwanda: https://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...act_gourevitch
Although the obstacles facing the African cyclists are daunting, it's apparently a popular sport in much of Africa and the riders are highly motivated. I expect they will eventually break into the elite ranks of cycling.
One of the earliest prominent bicycle racers was Major Taylor (https://www.majortaylorassociation.org/who.htm), and there is a cycling club out of New Jersey named after him.
FYI, African nations are just starting to get into cycling, and it's very popular. A recent New Yorker article talked about the state of pro cycling in Rwanda: https://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...act_gourevitch
Although the obstacles facing the African cyclists are daunting, it's apparently a popular sport in much of Africa and the riders are highly motivated. I expect they will eventually break into the elite ranks of cycling.
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It seems like cycling is more likely to thrive in a region with a well-developed road system where many people have enough disposable income to be able to easily afford quality bikes and where these things have existed for long enough to create a cycling sub-culture. Bing, bing, bing for Europe and South America with the U.S. closely behind. I don't see where race comes into it.
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Within a few years though, there were about 6 of us racing in Europe. The national events back home had grown to groups of around 15 or so. I actually raced in South Africa before Europe, which has normal size pelotons, but that peloton got very familiar very quick.
Cycling has become very popular, but in South Africa remains a predominantly white sport. In other African countries how ever, its mainly black riders.
Believe me, there was nothing about "team sport" when racing in Africa. I had the opportunity of racing in the All Africa Games, The Commonwealth games, and finally the World Championships in Portugal before racing in Europe, and there was nothing 'team sporty' about it. It was, and is, each man for himself.
I would say in another 50 years or so, the Tour will be dominated by black athletes
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It seems like cycling is more likely to thrive in a region with a well-developed road system where many people have enough disposable income to be able to easily afford quality bikes and where these things have existed for long enough to create a cycling sub-culture. Bing, bing, bing for Europe and South America with the U.S. closely behind. I don't see where race comes into it.
The reverse side of the coin is that at the collegiate level (at least here in California) the ranks are very diverse... but there's lots more money to be made in business and technology so few of the collegiate racers of any ethnicity ever think about trying to go pro.
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I played ultimate frisbee in college but I don't anymore because it's racist. Everyone who played was a skinny white guy.
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I'm sure the audience watching/following le Tour is vastly white. In US bike racing isn't very interesting to most blacks. Indeed its one of those things that could get a black kid accussed (by other blacks) of acting white.
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How does one act white?
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