BillyD

Maybe WE don't, but THEY would probably love it. Sure, WE fanatics of the cycling forums are totally saturated with Mr. Lance and all the stories surrounding him. But I would argue that all the regular members of all the cycling forums combined don't amount to 5% of the total bicycling population in America. And that's being generous, I would actually expect the figure to be closer to 1% or less.

There's a ton of people out there who jump on a bicycle of some sort at least a couple times a month who don't spend ANY time on these cycling forums and do not scour the media outlets looking for cycling-related information. I'd bet THEY would be inspired enough to plunk down a few bucks to watch a movie about this phenomenon.

Sure many of THEM have heard of him . . . if they haven't I think it's a really sad reflection on them . . . but THEY just haven't spent any time reviewing any detailed information about the man. Cycling just isn't that important in their life (yes, that's something WE can hardly understand). Many would be inspired to learn about his life. And that doesn't count the millions of people who don't cycle at all, but yet would love to watch such an inspiring movie.

That's who I'm talking about, THEM, not US.

PS: . . . and at least 50% of US would go watch it too.

badhat

you guys makin some progress on this one?

Homebrew01

Yup .... It's US vs THEM .........

X-LinkedRider

So, really I just wanted to know if anybody has heard anything of the status of this project. Your thoughts on how much greater you are than Lance really has no bearing. When you write a book that somebody in here might want to read, your opinions of Lance might then become relevant. Until then.... Is this thing still coming out in 2012 or is it as previously suggested, just a home project?

Pug

I'm not too sure the non-cyclist movie-goer will be very interested in seeing a Lance biopic. The more time that passes since his last TdF victory he becomes more and more irrelevant. He'd need to have some high impact event to make him newsworthy again, like winning Ironman or getting indicted for running an international drug ring on the government's dime.

On the flip side, the USPS can use all the free advertising it can get right now.

Walter

Lance threads become doping threads. It's like the tides coming in; completely predictable.

Doping threads go to Pro (the 217) also predictable.

patentcad

if you actually operate under the delusion the any alleged doping that Armstrong may have engaged in gave him anything approaching an unfair advantage in pro cycling c. 1998-2005, you know less about pro cycling.

X-LinkedRider

He's so irrelivent almost nobody could stay on topic....

rooftest

I didn't get any of that by reading this thread, but I'll throw in that I am much greater than Lance. Not hating on Lance - it's just that I'm pretty great.

As for his books - you should have said "When you hire somebody to ghost-write a book for you that's worth reading..."

Commodus

This is actually an interesting conversation to have, but I suspect you have some learnin' to do before we could really have it.

I think we went around this before, and frankly I got tired of just writing out ancient history.

Terry66

So, I really don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about Lance. I will say it is impressive to beat cancer. It is also impressive to win the TdF just once. It is cool that whatever the motives, LiveStrong has raised a bunch of money and helped people in need. I mean those are all good things.

As far as doping. Can't say I approve of it, cause I certainly don't.....just have to wonder what percentage of his competition was also doping at the same time. I guess my feeling is that if a majority of the field was doping, then I guess all things considered, it was a level playing field and he was the best those years.

As far as TdF winners....seems nice guys rarely finish first. Cadel might be one of the exceptions

X-LinkedRider

Point being, whether you or steven king wrote your biography, nobody would care to read it.

X-LinkedRider

Looks like a similar point that PCad was trying to make. Cheating is all relative to whether or not the competition is fair or cheating as well. I don't know why so many people forget this point.

Commodus

Really? THAT'S your point? Cuz it seems pretty pointless to me.

Doesn't it follow that your opinion is irrelevant too? So by your own logic, I guess you should just stop posting altogether...

X-LinkedRider

I should except then you might think people actually care what you think about somebody else. Besides that, it is exactly what the thread is about. Lance's Biography and it's status. Not yours, not mine, not anybody else's posting in this thread. Not even PCads, though I would probably read that one...

Homebrew01

Cheating isn't relative. Cheating is cheating.
"everyone else is doing it" is not a valid reason to cheat.

X-LinkedRider

Well all hail every imposter president we have ever elected then. You're right, you cannot relinquish them of the fact theat they cheated, but it helps you recognize talent above most amongst an ocean of cheating. Allegedly braking the rules is different than having an unfair advantage over the field. But the UCI can't afford to start handing out the yellow jersey to 15th place riders who MIGHT be a legitimate first.

For us in the crowd, there is no valid reason. For those collecting a paycheck, I am sure there are plenty of reasons. Validity is up to the judges, but WELL AFTER the paychecks are handed out.

ravenmore

I like Lemond too. Just because you like one doesn't mean you have to hate on the other. I wouldn't say I'm a huge idol worshiping fan of either of them, but they were both great cyclists.

Terry66

No question you are 100% right. I am just saying that if everyone is doping, then it is a "level" playing field and winning the TdF 7 times in a level playing field is seriously impressive.

Now if you run out into a Spanish field in the middle of the night and inject a cow with performance enhancers and then during the tour you kill and eat that cow to get an advantage? Well, that is totally unforgivable.

ravenmore

I remember in another thread someone said something along those lines. I told him to go play with his batman action figures. He then posted pictures of his batman action figures. (that wasn't you, was it?).

Doping is cheating, but its been going on since the dawn of the sport and is engrained in the culture of the sport IMO. Not defending it, or Lance. More just trying to explain it to people outside of it. I do think they are starting to make in roads into cleaning it up finally though.

ravenmore

You know what I always thought would make a bad ass movie? Doing a movie about Major Taylor.

X-LinkedRider

And unimaginable. Lol. It takes a different amount to impress people, but I'm with you. 7 wins is overly impressive, not matter WHAT the circumstances were. There is not a single member on this forum who has gotten anywhere beyond just dreaming about riding a stage at the TdF. That is NOT to say that he deserves more credit than anybody who did it without cheating, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve any credit for what he accomplished which is more than 7 times the amount anybody in here has accomplished.

X-LinkedRider

Or this dood. I always wanted to know more than wiki had to offer on him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_M...parachutist%29

BillyD

Right on cue.

Ya know, as competitive as you guys claim to be, wouldn't you think that FOR ONCE you would want to prove this hypothesis wrong . . . I mean, just for the challenge of it?

Asking too much??

Commodus

I did try...