Effect Of A Fairing?
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Yes, but it slopes slightly upward through the last 3/4 mile and through the time traps, IIRC. There's a small gully and bridge at this point on the BM course.
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Yup - and in addition, they were looking for a place that was at sufficient altitude. There's other possibilities for near-sea-level, but the thinner air is better for high-speed runs.
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Well, I don't know the exact air density at Battle Mountain that hour that day (but I have air density from weather stations in Winnemucca and Elko from earlier in the day and later in the evening) so I had to make a guess about that. But given that guess, I got a CdA just a hair under 0.02 m^2.
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That's interesting. I saw a little "blip" in the slope but I couldn't be sure about it. I'm using speed and power data from two of his runs but at that point he was doing ~ 30 m/sec so my resolution on the slope would be no better than that. He covered the 200 m speed trap in about 6 seconds but I don't see a positive slope through that, nor through the preceding km.
Well, I don't know the exact air density at Battle Mountain that hour that day (but I have air density from weather stations in Winnemucca and Elko from earlier in the day and later in the evening) so I had to make a guess about that. But given that guess, I got a CdA just a hair under 0.02 m^2.
Well, I don't know the exact air density at Battle Mountain that hour that day (but I have air density from weather stations in Winnemucca and Elko from earlier in the day and later in the evening) so I had to make a guess about that. But given that guess, I got a CdA just a hair under 0.02 m^2.
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I'm impressed that Sam could put out that much power scrunched up like that. It looked like his shoulders are hunched forward, hard to breath. It's amazing how much impact a couple of inches narrower makes, more than you'd expect just looking at it casually.
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The main effect of my fairing is to keep the rain off me. I only get wet from my chest up. In crosswinds, it seems to act almost like a wing, and I have to lean into the wind. On downhills, I have hit about 45 mph, which I probably could not hit without the fairing.
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I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
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I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
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I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes?
I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this:
https://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm
Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit?
Thanks!
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Ah, interesting. I also hunted around BROL and found a coast down test on a V-Rex.
https://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex
The speed at which you have to be going, to get 1 to 3 mph help from these aero aids, seems to be pretty fast. The various coast down tests I'm finding involve 30-40 mph speeds.
https://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex
The speed at which you have to be going, to get 1 to 3 mph help from these aero aids, seems to be pretty fast. The various coast down tests I'm finding involve 30-40 mph speeds.
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Ah, interesting. I also hunted around BROL and found a coast down test on a V-Rex.
https://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex
https://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex







